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Topic: Does anyone have a veneered steel guitar? |
Dave Stroud
From: Texas
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Posted 7 Feb 2017 11:22 am
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I tried to register on steelguitarbuilder.com to post this question, but I couldn't get pass the security question. I typed "Green" when it asked "Who is famous steel player Lloyd G____? (type last name)" but it didn't work and now it says I've 'exceeding the number of registration attempts for this session'.
Anyways, does anyone have a veneer covered steel guitar? I'm wondering if I need to 'balance' or 'back' it by applying a balancing veneer to the underside of the body.
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 7 Feb 2017 12:04 pm
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You wouldn't need to, but I think you'd want something to seal the wood. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Dave Stroud
From: Texas
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2017 12:16 pm
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I think a veneer is used just for appearances, like on the front of the guitar. I know Emmons used a veneer on the front of their lacquered p/p's.
I believe a hard rock maple was used for the cabinet and then more of a fancy maple veneer was used for the front. |
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Dave Stroud
From: Texas
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Posted 7 Feb 2017 12:38 pm
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So the question is this:
Did Emmons also apply a veneer to the underside of their p/p's?
Wood veneer is much different than mica, or any other type of glue-on finish, because it is real wood, and it reacts like real wood.
One of the issues with veneer is it expands and compresses throughout seasonal/humidity changes. In woodworking, a 'backer' or 'balancing' veneer is applied to the back side of a board because it 'balances' out the differing tensions between the veneer and the wood, both of which are compressing/decompressing at different rates. The claim is if you attach a veneer to only one side of a board, it may eventually bubble/ripple/detach from the substrate due to the imbalance of tensions. A veneer on both sides of the board balances out the varying tensions, and makes detaching less likely.
Because of all the bolts, screws, and metal on a steel guitar, I'm not sure a balancing veneer is necessary. Then again, our steel guitar necks aren't screwed down super tight, so there might be a tiny wiggle room there to put in consideration. |
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Dave Stroud
From: Texas
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Posted 7 Feb 2017 2:25 pm
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This thread can probably be closed. For future reference, "Joe" from veneersupplies.com and joewoodworker.com says he doesn't think it's necessary. He seems like a 'better safe than sorry' kind of guy, so if he says it's not needed- it's probably really not needed.
Thanks, Erv and Lane. I think you both are usually the first to comment on most my threads. Do ya'll have a rivalry or something? |
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Bruce Derr
From: Lee, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2017 4:14 pm
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The veneer apron on my lacquer Carter is 1/8", quite thick compared to, say, the veneer on my old dresser. |
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Ned McIntosh
From: New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 9 Feb 2017 4:52 pm
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The "sausage-quilt" maple on the front apron of my Carter is a veneer:-
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