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Einar Baldursson


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Post  Posted 19 Jan 2017 1:06 pm    
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Here's a nice little blues theme by Red Garland that I've been working on recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LoqIc7ZjBg

It's tabbed in Jules Ah See C13th tuning but you only need 8 strings for the chords. The melody works just as well on a six stringer in C6. Hope you enjoy!



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Einar Baldursson


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Post  Posted 19 Jan 2017 1:27 pm    
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I can't seem to be able to get the picture readable. Hopefully this pdf link looks better.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ysux9ay3xk6iyef/Red%27s%20Good%20Groove%20-%20harmonized%20melody.pdf?dl=0
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Guy Cundell


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Post  Posted 19 Jan 2017 5:18 pm    
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Hey, Einar, nice tune and arrangement! Not one that I was familiar with. Thanks for that. Great to hear a new voice on the forum! Your arrangement is quite playable on inside strings of A6 up three frets.

Not wanting to hijack your thread but rather spread the love, I have sketched it out for A6.

I've kept the register of your chart for the dots (transposed up an octave). That was was what I once thought was appropriate but I have gone back to writing the notes at actual pitch. I note that is John Ely's approach and , I think, Mike Neer, also. I am not sure how Andy Volk is doing it at present. There are no rules, of course, but it is good to go with the flow.
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Einar Baldursson


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2017 2:14 am    
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Thanks Guy! Nice job with the A6 version. It's fun to find and play tunes that fly under the radar, i.e. don't get called out on jam sessions too often. This one has a slightly Monkish feel to it I think.

As for the octave register you're absolutely right. I know John Ely at least would have written the notes an octave lower and the reason seems clear enough. Most steel guitar music is up there in pitch and it's much easier to read without ledger lines all over the place. I guess octave transposing is a force of habit after all these years on 'standard' guitar...here it is again:



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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2017 3:33 am    
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The GP6 software I use notates up an octave based on the Scientific notation settings you use. If there's a better way to do it, I'm open to change. I use John Ely's settings per this screenshot ...



In any case, however you do it, I love Red Garland's playing! It's great that you are transcribing Red's music. His block chord approach is good fit fit for steel. I inserted Red's single note chorus into Jerry Byrd's arrangement of Estrellita and it worked quite well.

John's SCI & MIDI guidelines ....


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Guy Cundell


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2017 4:09 am    
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I correct myself as far as the register goes. It seems as if both Mike Neer and Doug Beaumier are with you, Andy, in transposing the dots up an octave. Alternatively, all of John Ely's and Alan Akaka's HSGA publications are at actual pitch. Basil Henrique's charts in Aloha Dreams have been at actual pitch since about 2006.

Historically, it goes both ways depending on publisher.

I find that excessive ledger lines above the stave are a pain and are eliminated by writing at pitch. Notes below then stave occur much less often.

It would be good to have consensus.
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2017 4:35 am    
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Jazz guitar master Johny Smith used to notate his arrangements in both treble and bass clef. That was a deal breaker for my fevered brain.

But regardless of how you write an arrangement, for steel guitar, notation is a poor substitute for all the exquisitely detailed nuances of expression that can come out of the instrument - but it's the poor substitute we have, I suppose. It's very refreshing that you and Einar are exploring other music beyond the steel guitar standards - there's so much untapped potential!
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