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Topic: A B6 idea on E9 |
Olli Haavisto
From: Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 23 Dec 2004 2:29 pm
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Does anyone lower their 9th string to C# with the same lever that lowers the E`s ? I think it might make sense when playing out of the B6 position with the Es lowered. What would I miss if I added that change to my E lever ?
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Olli Haavisto
Polar steeler
Finland
oharvester@hotmail.com
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Bengt Erlandsen
From: Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 23 Dec 2004 4:21 pm
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I have seen 2nd str lowered to C# on E's-Eb.
Can't remember if seeing it done the other way, lowering the 9th instead.
It is a useful combination to lower 9th to C# together w E's-Eb but having them on the same lever wont let you raise E's-F at the same time unless you have a P/P guitar and that combination is also a very useful one.
Also you would miss the dom7 on strings 9 8 6(open) to the Ichord by lowering 9th to C# and pressing B pedal.
Now if you still have another lever that lowers 9th string to C# this wont be a problem.
But.............
If you still want to lower 9th to C# on the E's to Eb lever you will lose the 3 chromatic notes on string 10 9 8 by using Apedal at the same time as E's-Eb. Notes = C# D Eb where Eb would be the 3rd note of a Bchord voicing most of the time. If you like blues sounds the minor3rd (D) to the Eb on the 8th string has some really nice licks in combination w/w-out A+B pedals.
If you want a chromatic moving bass line playing 8 6 5 open to 8b 6 5 (E's-Eb) to 9 6 5 (dom7) before going to A+B (or lowering 9 further to C# you would have to release the E's-Eb lever before playing the dom7th note on the 9th string and this might prevent the music flowing smoothly.
Bengt Erik[This message was edited by Bengt Erlandsen on 23 December 2004 at 05:15 PM.] |
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Bobby Lee
From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 23 Dec 2004 6:36 pm
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It's the equivalent of having a middle D string on C6th. I like the idea, myself.
I have the E lowers and the D to C# on opposite knees, and I very often use them together. It gives you a very useful pentatonic scale. Click the E9th in my signature below to see how I do it. |
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Bobby Lee
From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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Michael Johnstone
From: Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 23 Dec 2004 7:11 pm
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Along similar lines - back when I played a D-10,I used to raise my 9th string from D to D# with the same lever that raised my Es to F. That way when I engaged my Es to F and pushed my Bs to C# pedal(the so-called A/F combination)it gave me a diatonic scale across the low half of the tuning. Very musical and can be added with very little hardware.The change can be overridden with the 9th string lower provided it's on the opposite knee(except on a PP Emmons where the raise will dominate). -MJ- |
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Rick Schmidt
From: Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 23 Dec 2004 9:48 pm
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Cool set up b0b! |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 24 Dec 2004 5:30 pm
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On my setup I tune my 9th string to C# and also my 2nd string. My LKR raises them both to D. I love having that 2 note of the B scale right there when the E's are lowered. It's like the F# of your E tuning and can be use in a lot of the same ways. I don't think I'd like it on the same lever as the E's to Eb (D#) as I use it a lot with the E's not being lowered and also with them raised to F. I think it'd be OK on that lever if you also could lower the 9ths string by itself maybe on the 2nd string lower. Have a good 'un..JH
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Livin' in the Past and Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.
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