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Topic: Dan Dugmore and Sturgill Simpson |
Bob Hoffnar
From: Austin, Tx
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Posted 10 Apr 2016 8:03 pm
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While in the van on the way to a gig yesterday I heard the new Sturgill Simpson recording.
The steel player seems to be Dan Dugmore. The playing is nothing short of astonishing !
Dan is all over the record playing essential parts to unconventional songs and brilliant arrangements. So creative and deeply musical. At first I thought is was Robbie Turner because the playing was so bad ass. I didn't have time to really investigate the album yet
Maybe it was that cat Laur playing some sort of slide. If it isn't a steel he has me fooled.
Anyway, really great music. _________________ Bob |
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Garry Vanderlinde
From: CA
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Patrick Ickes
From: Upper Lake, CA USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2016 9:27 pm
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Nail in the coffin my ass!
Re: another post about steel guitar dying.
We are defining a modern sound once again.
Patrick |
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Bob Hoffnar
From: Austin, Tx
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Posted 10 Apr 2016 10:57 pm
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The Nirvana cover is great. There is some amazing steel playing all over the album. _________________ Bob |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 11 Apr 2016 12:52 am
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One thing I find revelatory about the In Bloom cover is how well the steel blends with the bowed instruments from 2'00" on and then emerges on its own. But then I guess fiddle and steel have always been happy together.
O.K. - not revelatory - totally predictable.... _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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Bob Hoffnar
From: Austin, Tx
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Posted 11 Apr 2016 4:37 am
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There is some steel work later on blending with a string quartet and horn section that is really brilliant. _________________ Bob |
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W. Van Horn
From: Houston, texas
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Posted 11 Apr 2016 5:53 am
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I've been meaning to check that record out - thanks for reminding me of it!
Just listened to in bloom, definitely sounds like Dan Dugmore to me.
I've been fooled a couple times lately with indie records out of Nashville with cats doing convincing Dan dugmore sounds. |
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Tom Keller
From: Greeneville, TN, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2016 12:39 pm
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All Music credits Dan Dugmore with the steel playing on In Bloom.
Tom Keller |
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Mark Eaton
From: Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 11 Apr 2016 12:44 pm
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Sounds great. Kind of a concept album apparently. Sturgill has struck me over the years as a sharp, talented guy - and a thinker.
And one can't go wrong with having Dan Dugmore on board.
The industry a couple years ago changed record release day from Tuesdays to Fridays, this one will be coming out this Friday and I'm pretty sure I'll be picking up the CD from my local record store. _________________ Mark |
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Rich Upright
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2016 1:33 pm Re: Sturgill/Nirvana
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Dunno if it's just ME, but I cannot understand 1 word of the vocals in this song. _________________ A couple D-10s,some vintage guitars & amps, & lotsa junk in the gig bag. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From: Austin, Tx
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 6:04 am
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I did a little checking and it looks like it was Dan Dugmore. I always knew he was a great steel player. My respect and admiration for his creative musicality just blew off the charts.
Looks like the tour is selling out and needing to ad dates and switch to bigger venues. I heard a rumor that there may be a steel on stage also. _________________ Bob |
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Barry Blackwood
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Ken Pippus
From: Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 9:06 am
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Barry, if you claimed to understand those lyrics, I'd worry about you. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 10:20 am
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No, I didn't claim to understand them, I was just supplying them to Rich. I was assuming they were not clear because of the recording...? |
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Ken Pippus
From: Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 10:37 am
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Seems they might just be unclear, period! |
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Garry Vanderlinde
From: CA
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 13 Apr 2016 8:46 am
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http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2016/apr/05/nirvana-in-bloom-nevermind-ezra-furman-sturgill-simpson
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In Bloom continues to resonate with musicians. The Grammy-nominated country star Sturgill Simpson – a man whose audience is likely to include fair proportion of men who like to sing along and shoot their guns – performs it on his new album A Sailor’s Guide to Earth, in a version that starts as a weeping country ballad, before transforming into a southern soul belter.
“I remember in seventh or eighth grade, when that album dropped, it was like a bomb went off in my bedroom,†he writes in the liner notes to his new album. “For me, that song has always summed up what it means to be a teenager, and I think it tells a young boy that he can be sensitive and compassionate – he doesn’t have to be tough or cold to be a man. So I wanted to make a very beautiful and pure homage to Kurt.â€
But he, more than Furman, is someone who’s been trapped by public and critical perceptions of him. Simpson’s second solo album, Metamodern Sounds in Country Music, saw him hailed as the man to return country music to its prelapsarian state, to strip away the beers-and-guns trappings of “bro country†and revive the outlaw spirit of hard country. But being acclaimed as the genre’s saviour was something that made him desperately uncomfortable. Like Cobain, he had been someone very much on the outside, who suddenly found his hand being shaken and his back being patted at every turn.
“Nashville is a very insider town. And I was definitely on the outside at the time,†he told me last year. He said that he didn’t have a problem with the bro country and pop country worlds – after all, music is a business, and country music is very much a business – but he also said: “It seems to me that country became fashionable and trendy, and I looked round [and saw] all these people in costumes, cos that’s how it’s supposed to be. And that’s great. For the tourists.†And as for being the saviour of country music, as writers had started to claim: “There’ll be another one along next year. They said the same shit about Steve Earle 20 years ago.â€
Maybe Simpson did want to record the song to send a message of compassion to teenagers. But given that southern soul, not Waylon Jennings, is the dominant influence on his new album, it’s not a stretch to think he’s also sending a message with his recording of In Bloom. And while he changes the final line of the chorus – from “You don’t know what it means when I say …†to “You don’t know what it means to love someone,†he told Zane Lowe on Beats 1 that it had simply been a mistake that wasn’t noticed until after the album was finished.
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 13 Apr 2016 9:26 am
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dan d. always impressed me more as a background filler than an exciting lick player. obviously this has worked for him, but can anyone put up a link to some exciting stuff he has done? |
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Barry Blackwood
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John Macy
From: Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 7:57 am
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I don't think of Dan as an "exciting lick" player, though there probably is some stuff out there, especially with Linda Rondstat in the day. I think the beauty of his playing is the vibe he catches and how the simple stuff fits so well and creates and enhances the mood of the song. The vibe he brings to a session as a person is equal to the vibe he puts on the record--he really helps create a great atmosphere on the session and I feel that helps everyone there capture the best they have to offer. With that to offer, I doubt he much cares that he is not considered a hot lick player.... _________________ John Macy
Rockport, TX
Engineer/Producer/Steel Guitar |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 8:55 am
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right. so that is his career lick?
you'd think by now we'd be familiar with a few others. |
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Mark Eaton
From: Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 3:42 pm
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One of my favorite things by Dan isn't even on pedal steel, it's on lap steel (sounds like G tuning). He has the overdriven sound going on a tune that singer/songwriter Mindy Smith released about 10 years ago called "Come To Jesus." Christian-based song, but not the the typical white bread stuff of which there is so much of out there. I have the CD, but unfortunately when they remixed the album version as a single for radio play apparently someone decided that about 3/4 of Dan's killer solo in the middle needed to be eliminated, so I won't post a link of the version on YouTube, but for anyone who has Spotify, it's available there. It was a shame that they didn't leave the original version intact.
As far as Dan on pedal steel, Fish had him play on three of the tunes on the Salute to Buddy Emmons album which I'm sure many, if not most of us of us own here, and the one-two punch on these three are Dan and Mr. Duane Eddy. Dan is going for the some of the slower stuff, the link below is to Blue Jade where he does a fine job, and as is often the case nowadays, the whole album is on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQGABq3kH48&index=3&list=PLUSRfoOcUe4brYGdelDylmRifB9sxy0rD _________________ Mark |
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Fish
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 4:46 pm
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I love and respect Dan both as a friend and as a player, so I'm clearly very biased. But I have to say he is one of the best at playing that perfect part in service of the song, which is what it's all about and is very difficult to do when the red light is on. Hey, I've hired him several times to play steel on sessions when I could have played myself. Why? Because I know better.
Here's a good read:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum15/HTML/012144.html
p.s. Dan kills it on the new Sturgill Simpson album. |
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Geoff Cline
From: Southwest France
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Posted 18 Apr 2016 2:30 pm
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This album is on HEAVY rotation here right now. It is GREAT...genre bending, excellent music with really fine players. Loving the horns; the songs and performances.
And the Steel and Dan's playing is a MAJOR part of what makes the album so enjoyable/musical and special. |
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