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Topic: refinishing a all wood steel |
Farris Currie
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Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Nov 2004 6:15 pm |
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question,how to keep stain out of wood inlay strips?and apply stain to guitar body?
open for any help!i know i've heard to seal the inlays first with sealers,but then it gets on wood and will not take stain!any one
have a fix on this?? farris |
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Jerry Roller
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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2004 8:10 pm
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 12:48 am
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Thanks Jerry,suppose i've probaly always made sealer to thin,makes sence,because tape always wants to bleed.i'm wanting to change inlays in an old guitar,route the old one out,and put in new.i do know to leave them a little out to sand in.also got to play with staining on scrap maple.i have seen some about alchol stains.just have to try.fun will be routing grooves,one slip,and cheap guitar for ebay!!!huh.well i be giving her a try.again thanks Jerry,
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Jennings Ward
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Edgewater, Florida, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 8:38 am
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FERRIS. IF YOU MESS IT UP , YOU CAN ALWAYS GET SOME " BLACK " RUSTOLEUM AND PAINT IT BLACK, RED, PINK , STRIPEDPOKADOT,, GREEN STREAKED, BURPLE, ALL WITH A LOT OF RUNS AND DRIPS AND PATCHES THAT WONT DRY.. OR YOU COULD PUT A CRINKLE FINISH ON IT, HOPE THIS SUGGESTION HELPLS.....WHERE WERE YOU WED. NITE? i WANTED TO MEET YOU AND BS A WHILE... TAKE CARE AND DONT FORGET TO USE A BRUSH OR SPRAY... POURING WONT WORK......JENNINGS....
BEAUTIFULL ANGELIC SOUND OF STEEL
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EMMONS D10 10-10 profex 2 deltafex ne1000 pv1000, pv 31 bd eq, + |
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 8:44 am
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hello Jennings,i was there,we got there a little late,met lots of people.didn't see ya,thanks for the help.i'm fixing to tear up a guitar,gonna route inlays out and put in new style,give it a complete overhaul.
have a great day farris |
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Ron !
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 8:48 am
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Farris promised me that if he would mess it up we could bid on it on Fleabay.
Ron
Nikaro SD10 4x6 |
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Rick Collins
From:
Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 8:56 am
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Farris, if you will use Scotch cellophane tape instead of masking tape, the bleed-under will be reduced a lot.
Rick |
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Jennings Ward
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Edgewater, Florida, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 2:27 pm
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Ferris, may I have the left over parts?
Jennings,,,,I was sitting up front with Joe Pennington, Hanks old lead guitar man,,Nice fellow, haad a good BS session....My wife was beside me chrocheting.....Didn't you hear me singign??? I wanted to play my bones . but they were too stiff and I lost
ANGELIC SOUND OF STEEL
ne.....later ,,,,,Jennings
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Mark Vinbury
From:
N. Kingstown, Rhode Island, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 3:05 pm
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| Why don't you stain the guitar and apply a coat of sealer, then rout for the inlay.Leave it a little proud and sand flush then more sealer and finish coat. [This message was edited by Mark Vinbury on 12 November 2004 at 03:06 PM.] |
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 3:20 pm
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Thank you Mark for the input,i'm just tired of the diamond inlays,i went to inlay world and bought several different types,see what happens.this is fun,one slip and ouch!oh well theres all ebay!!! ha ha thanks guys.
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Mark Vinbury
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N. Kingstown, Rhode Island, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 3:29 pm
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| Positive thinking and straight edges on both sides of the router.Wax(no silicone) the bottom of the router base.Makes for a nice smooth run. |
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 4:01 pm
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| nervooooooooooous!!!!! popatop again!!!!!!! |
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Bill Ford
From:
Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 5:40 pm
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Farris,
What color you gonna shoot for? I used leather dye, I got from a shoe repair shop. Choose a color,if they have it and try it on a piece of scrap. Get the smallest size available, it don't take but a couple dabs. Below is a link to my guitar, I stained banding an everything,don't look too bad.
BTW dye works better than stain on maple.
BF
http://www.msnusers.com/WilliamsHandywork/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26 [This message was edited by Bill Ford on 12 November 2004 at 05:42 PM.] |
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Carlos Polidura
From:
Puerto Rico
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 6:09 pm
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farris.... contact the pros. mike cass is a pro at this. and there are many more.
carlos |
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 6:57 pm
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Bill,that is some bueatful guitars,carlos,i'm just enjoying this topic,yea i know,i've got one a DUANNE MARRS now for rebuilding.but i've always been pretty good with my hands!i've built 6 singles thru the years.the finishing is always the problem.maple don't like stain very good.i was reading on alcohol stains,seemed like it would soak in better.thats why i ask the question on forum i know lots of people had more knowledge that i do.i have a shaper with collars ect.figure those wood necks will be a trick.oh well,only a old sho-bud!! ha ha
Thanks guys, keep it comming. farris |
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 6:11 am
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| any ideas on making it lighter without hurting the sound??mabe bore some pretty good size holes in the right places,fill with foam ect.ha ha crazy huh. farris |
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Carlos Polidura
From:
Puerto Rico
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 11:55 am
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gee... farris. that's great.
i wish i had a place to work with these proyects. i'm also very handy.
good luck,
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 12:51 pm
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| Carlos, come on down man,bring all your cash with you!!!enjoy playing around,Yep,i am really blessed to have what i have.been years in the making,and now i'm puney,gosh i just want to do so much.seems every thing cost so much,and i just don't feel like fighting it no more. thanks man farris |
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Roger Edgington
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 1:49 pm
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| Paint lightning stripes on it. Don't know how many it takes. |
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 2:14 pm
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Thanks RODGER,trying to figure best way to go,wondering about removing old inlays,wonder if i could be real careful with a small chain saw,and remove all the old stuff, then just glue in the new one!!!
gotta be careful!!!! farris |
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 3:35 pm
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Dont forget the handymans secret wepon:
DUCT TAPE ! 
" If the women dont find ya handsome, they should at least find you handy!"
Good Luck!!
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Sho-Bud ProII, Pro III custom,
Nash 400,Hilton pedal,Tut Taylor "Virginian" reso"There's been an awful murder, down on music row"
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 14 Nov 2004 7:05 am
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| Seriously guys,i get to joking around,but you wouldn't believe some of the emails i've gotten!!now back to the serious side,i'm cleaning the top of the shaper good,waxing it so boards will slide free.and then a lots of practice before i start on guitar.then i be asking on ideas for best glues,i've always used carpender elmers,seems to hold pretty good,and can be wiped off with a wet rag.Ok thanks for all input. farris |
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Farris Currie
From:
Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 14 Nov 2004 2:44 pm
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| Question,what if i coat inlays good before putting them in?will it keep them from glueing down good.just a thought!!!! |
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 14 Nov 2004 4:10 pm
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Hi Farris,
We use the yellow Elmers type carpenter wood glue in the cabinet shop at work all the time and I would think it would be fine for glueing in your new inlays, however I dont think I would recomend prefinishing the back side of the inlays, as the glue needs to be absorbed into the pours of the wood to be able to do its job. Its probably better to leve them a little proud so you can sand them down flush with the cabinet sides afterwards....good luck. |
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Johnny Harris
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2004 6:13 pm
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| Farris, It has been a whole day since you last posted. I am worried about you. You didn't cut off your hand with the chainsaw, I hope. Or maybe you just have your fingers in the glue? Let us know. |
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