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Dana Blodgett

 

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Post  Posted 1 Oct 2016 1:02 pm    
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Can someone please explain what a "0" pedal does on the E9th neck. I have an old Sho-Bud 6140 with Emmons setup
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Dana Blodgett
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Edward Rhea

 

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Post  Posted 1 Oct 2016 1:22 pm    
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Dana, the zero pedal is when an additional change is made before the A pedal on an Emmons set up, such as the Franklin change/pedal. It involves moving your A, B, and C pull rods to right one pedal. The Franklin change isn't the only change(but probably the most popular/common), at the zero pedal...you can put any change(raise/lower) there, if your guitar has the ability to make those changes. At least, that's my understanding..?
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Ian Rae


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Redditch, England
Post  Posted 1 Oct 2016 1:23 pm    
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A "0" pedal is a pedal to the left of pedals A, B & C (or 1, 2, & 3), which are moved over one space.

What it does is up to you. Some folks have a "Franklin pedal", some raise strings 1 & 2. Whatever you think you need.

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Tom Beck


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Farmington Missouri
Post  Posted 1 Oct 2016 1:38 pm    
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I had and MSA with one and it lowered 3 and 6 a half step changing the pedals up chord from major to minor.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 1 Oct 2016 2:36 pm    
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Tom Beck wrote:
I had and MSA with one and it lowered 3 and 6 a half step changing the pedals up chord from major to minor.


I also have that change on my 0 pedal. Except I have 3 G# strings on my U-12, so the pedal also drops string 10.
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Quentin Hickey

 

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Post  Posted 1 Oct 2016 2:42 pm    
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MSA usually has the first pedal position u used making it a zero pedal. On my MSA guitar I made it the Franklin pedal. Alot of folks do that.
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Dana Blodgett

 

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Post  Posted 1 Oct 2016 3:09 pm     0 pedal
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Thanks to everyone for the info, I was under the assumption that a particular change was designated to the "0" pedal. So I guess I can put whatever I want there,as I have room for 3 more pedals on the pedal bar, it originally came with 6 floor pedals.
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Dana Blodgett
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 1 Oct 2016 4:35 pm    
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The 0 pedal, being furthest from the changer, is the easiest to modify, as there are no rods in front of it that need to be temporarily removed.

This means you can experiment with different changes and see which one you prefer.
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Dana Blodgett

 

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Post  Posted 1 Oct 2016 5:19 pm     "0" pedal
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I'll have to locate some old wide ShoBud pedals and rods if I get serious. My 3X4 setup suits me pretty well but sometimes wish for more and have been curious what others are doing.
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Dana Blodgett
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2016 10:05 am    
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I put the 1st and 2nd string raise there, so I can raise the two strings to unison with 3 and 4, then pull the 2nd string root down to the b7. In my vocabulary, that's a valuable use for both changes. See this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XUykptG6DBQ
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