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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2016 7:41 am    
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Does the BB not like another matching device? I haven't had a chance to hook up the combo yet.

bob
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 29 Aug 2016 9:32 am    
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Try it.
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Bob Snelgrove


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Post  Posted 29 Aug 2016 11:01 am    
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Richard Sinkler wrote:
Try it.


I will

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Dale Rivard

 

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Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2016 11:12 am    
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Hi Bob, I haven't tried the combination you're talking about but for a short while years ago, I did have a Steel Driver 2 and a Match-Bro hooked together. I found it affected the natural sound of the steel. The highs seemed to be thinner and more brittle. My guess is because of each unit having a preamp. That was on the red Franklin you have. Might be different with a Black Box.
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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2016 1:18 pm    
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Dale Rivard wrote:
Hi Bob, I haven't tried the combination you're talking about but for a short while years ago, I did have a Steel Driver 2 and a Match-Bro hooked together. I found it affected the natural sound of the steel. The highs seemed to be thinner and more brittle. My guess is because of each unit having a preamp. That was on the red Franklin you have. Might be different with a Black Box.


Thanks, Dale

I hope Brad is still around. The Black Box is always the first thing the pickup sees. I'm assuming Steel to BB to MB to VP and out??

bob
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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2016 1:53 pm    
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I would mess with all combinations. I'd be curious to see how MB first into BB compared to BB into MB.

In one case you get a transistorized capture of the pickup then into the warming and smoothing of the tube. In the other case, you capture the pickup with that tube quality and then re-amplify/buffer with the solid state MB.

And maybe then whichever arrangement sounds cooler, then take whichever unit is in position #2 and then compare the sound with that buffer either before or after the volume pedal. Putting a buffer after a passive-pot volume pedal has its merits.

I'm a less-is-more kind of person generally trying to minimize the number of electronic components or stages in the signal path from pickup to speaker - down to the bare minimum and best sounding. But there are no rules, whatever sounds best is best.

I look forward to the reports and comparisons...


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Brad Sarno


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Post  Posted 29 Aug 2016 2:00 pm    
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And Bob, short answer,

the BB is pretty flexible and impervious, a simple unity gain buffer that should play well with just about anything you put before or after it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it in any reasonable configuration. Even if you have it in a situation that allows you to hit it with hot, line-level audio that drives it up into audible distortion, that's not gonna hurt the Black Box.

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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2016 2:31 pm    
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Brad Sarno wrote:
And Bob, short answer,

the BB is pretty flexible and impervious, a simple unity gain buffer that should play well with just about anything you put before or after it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it in any reasonable configuration. Even if you have it in a situation that allows you to hit it with hot, line-level audio that drives it up into audible distortion, that's not gonna hurt the Black Box.

B


Thanks, Brad!

I'll try all suggestions, even the BB after the VP if it sounds the best!

thx

bob
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