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Joe Drivdahl


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2016 2:48 pm    
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I was watching an episode of Pawn Stars today and someone brought in an old Sho-Bud. I could tell by looking it was an older guitar, but it had carrying handles on the end plates. When did Sho-Bud put handles on their guitars? Anyone know?
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Billy Easton

 

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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2016 2:55 pm    
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Joe
I had a 1963 Sho Bud Permanent D10 that had handles on the end plates.

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Joe Drivdahl


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2016 3:07 pm    
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Thanks Billy. That might be about the age of this one. Its got narrow pedals for the front neck, and wide Emmons like pedals for the rear, which seems weird to me too. May not be standard.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2016 3:09 pm    
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The earliest Sho-Buds, the first four, I believe, could be five or six, had finger grabs drilled out in the wooden ends of the guitar. There were no endplates on the outside of the guitars.

Then Sho-Bud began making Permanents without the finger grabs on the endplates. They are harder to get out of the case, of course. Remember, guitars were stored in their cases strings up in those days. Bigsbys, Fenders, Wrights too.

Then, it seems in 1958, Sho-Bud started putting handles on the endplates like you would find on Bigsbys and other steels.

I have seen some Fingertips with handles, but it seems that Sho-Bud stopped putting handles on the endplates during the Fingertip guitars, so let's say 1965. I have seen a 1968 Permanent with handles, though.
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Justin Griffith


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2016 4:05 pm    
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Joe Drivdahl wrote:
Thanks Billy. That might be about the age of this one. Its got narrow pedals for the front neck, and wide Emmons like pedals for the rear, which seems weird to me too. May not be standard.


Those pedals are correct on an early Bud.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2016 4:09 pm    
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Justin Griffith wrote:
Joe Drivdahl wrote:
Thanks Billy. That might be about the age of this one. Its got narrow pedals for the front neck, and wide Emmons like pedals for the rear, which seems weird to me too. May not be standard.


Those pedals are correct on an early Bud.


Not the earliest Sho-Buds, though.
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Joe Drivdahl


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2016 11:14 pm    
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Chris,

So this guitar was pretty old then. Corey and the Old Man wouldn't go more than 1,500 on it. Not sure it was worth anymore than that to anyone but a collector or a restorer. Probably pre 70s then. Wow thats old for a steel.
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Ian Rae


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Post  Posted 10 Aug 2016 1:16 am    
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I have a D10 with no name on it which originally had just the standard eight pedals and no lever on either neck (I have updated it to 8x5) so I could date it if I knew when levers came along. It is a well-made copy of a permanent. Any ideas?
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Herb Steiner

 

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Post  Posted 10 Aug 2016 4:45 am    
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That episode is from a couple years back.

I saw it then and my initial thought was that no pawn shop I ever dealt with would ever offer that much $$ for an old steel... if they paid $1500 for that steel, they'd have to sell it for $6000. And no one is gonna pay 6 large for an old Sho~Bud. So the Gold and Silver Pawn Shop must be some unusual pawn shop indeed.

But of course, it's a rehearsed reality show, so entertaining the audience is more important than revealing the basically avaricious nature of most pawn shop deals when it comes to lending to borrowers.
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Joe Drivdahl


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Post  Posted 10 Aug 2016 3:37 pm    
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Herb,

The seller wouldn't sell it for $1,500. She wanted $1,800 and the pawn guys wouldn't go that high. I probably would have sold it for $1,500 and thought I'd done pretty well. Like you said, I doubt any pawn shop would go $1,500 for an old Bud like that, and you know a guitar that old would need an overhaul to get it in working order. The guitar expert was no help. He knew nothing about steels other than a little history. He couldn't tell if the strings were returning right or anything else, but he appraised the guitar between $1,800 and $2,300.
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