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Rainer Hackstaette


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Bohmte, Germany
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2004 5:24 am    
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During their 20 years of production, from 1964 to 1983, the Emmons push-pull guitars have undergone a number of changes in design. A time-line of these upgrades could provide a data base to determine the year of production of a given guitar and/or when it was modified. For the D-10, there is a list of serial numbers on the Carter website. To my knowledge, no such list exists for the other models: S-10, S-12, SD-10, SD-12, D-12. Below, you'll find some of the various features. I am hoping that you all might help me to fill in the blanks and correct errors. Some of the years stated are guesses based on my own guitars (1970 D-10, #1461, 1977 D-10, #2321, 1969? S-10, #1117) and photos of others.

Cabinet, rear apron:
1) cut back: 1964-1976, 1973-1983
2) full back/fat back: 1968-1973; and most lacquer models

Metal neck:
1) wrap-around: 1964
2) bolt-on: 1965-1966; and all wooden neck models
3) cut-tail/split tail: 1967-1983

Cut-Tail end block:
1) no patent number engraved: 1967-1972
2) patent number engraved: 1972-1983

Fretboard:
1) black w/white atoms: Student model (Black Rock), Economy D-10
2) glossy black, thin silver lines, colored atoms (orange, white, red, yellow): 1964-1969
3) glossy black, thin silver lines, colored atoms (orange, blue, red, yellow): 1970
4) matt black, thick silver lines, colored atoms (orange, blue, red, yellow): 1976
5) matt black, white lines, colored atoms (orange, blue, red, yellow): 1980

Knee levers:
1) no levers: 1964
2) silver levers, 6 3/4 "/17 cm: -1970
3) silver levers, 5 1/2"/14 cm:
4) black levers, 5 1/2"/ 14 cm:
5) RKR fold-out extender, first introduced in:
6) vertical knee lever, first introduced in:
7) half-tuner for E-F lever, first introduced in:

Knee lever L-brackets:
1) 1-hole bracket: -1970
2) 3-hole bracket:

Cross straps/braces (from front apron to rear apron):
1) 2 straps: 1964-1970
2) 1 strap: 1971-1983
3) no strap on S-10: ????-1983

Pedal stop rail:
1) wood: 1964-1967
2) metal: 1968-1983

Flocking:
1) red flocking:
2) black flocking:

Pedals:
1) wide 1 3/8"/3.5 cm cast aluminum pedals: 1964-1970
2) narrow 1 3/16"/3.0 cm cast aluminum pedals: 1971-
3) LeGrande style pedals:

Pedal rods:
1) 2-piece rods 3/16"/5.0 mm with attached hook: 1964-1970
2) 1-piece rods 11/64"/4.5 mm: 1971-1983

Pedal rod spacing:
1) wide spacing 2 19/32"/6.6 cm: 1964-1970
2) narrow spacing 2 5/32"/5.65 cm: 1971-1983

Decal/plaque:
1) silver "Stereo" decal: 1964
2) silver decal: -1968
3) metal plaque (brown or black): 1969
4) plastic plaque (black only):

Keyhead tuners:
1) Kluson oval head:
2) Kluson tulip head:
3) others (Sperzel, Schaller, Gotoh):

Endplate tuners:
1) tuning screws with plastic inserts: 1964-1970
2) tuning screws with red lock-tite: 1971-1983

Tone knob:
1) black bakelite: 1964-1970
2) black plastic hat style w/silver insert:

I am sure there is more. Keep the data coming and I'll fill it in. Maybe someone will want to use this information and write a book, calling it "The Emmons Push-Pull - 20 Years of Excellence" (or something equally profound ).

Rainer

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Remington D-10 8+7, Sierra Crown D-10 gearless 8+8, Sierra Session S-14 gearless 8+5, '77 Emmons D-10 8+4, '70 Emmons D-10 8+4, '69 Emmons S-10 6+5, Fender Artist D-10 8+4, Peavey Session 400 LTD, Peavey Vegas 400, Line 6 Variax 700

[This message was edited by Rainer Hackstaette on 12 October 2004 at 07:21 AM.]

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Mark Durante


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St. Pete Beach FL
Post  Posted 11 Oct 2004 3:20 pm    
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I would think that lots of guys would join in on this one. For what it's worth my '83 S-10 p/p has stock Schaller tuners and no cross brace at all.
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Curry Coster

 

From:
Glen Burnie, MD USA
Post  Posted 12 Oct 2004 6:12 am    
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Rainer-
FWIW, I bought my first Emmons guitar new in 1972. It had black flocking, oval Klusons, a cross strap and was a cut tail with patent numbers engraved on the blocks. I can't remember for the life of me if it was a fat back or not....
Curry
BTW, the numbers were upside-down....

[This message was edited by Curry Coster on 12 October 2004 at 07:13 AM.]

[This message was edited by Curry Coster on 12 October 2004 at 07:14 AM.]

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