| Visit Our Catalog at SteelGuitarShopper.com |

Post new topic String Guage for open E
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  String Guage for open E
Derrick Unger

 

From:
Newark Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2016 1:54 pm    
Reply with quote

Just changed a 6 string pedal steel (Overfelt) from E9th to Open E and wondered if anyone had ideas on string guage?? Using w54, w46, w36, 22p, 17p, 13p..Thanks in Advance
_________________
Music is good for the soul..playing it is even better! Gretsch6strLapSteel*PeaveyNashville400*HudsonSD-10*DigitechRP360*FenderChampion100*PeaveyKB300*Goodrich120*Behringerx1204*BehringerMini4*Mullen S10"Discovery"*Peavey Vegas400*Princeton112plus*SuperChampX2*SidekickReverb65*Rumble100*MarshallMG50DFX*Nashville112
View user's profile Send private message
Kyle Everson

 

From:
Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2016 2:38 pm    
Reply with quote

Hi Derrick. Check out this article on b0b's website:

http://www.b0b.com/infoedu/gauges.htm
View user's profile Send private message
Ricky Davis


From:
Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2016 3:21 pm    
Reply with quote

When asking about "String guages"; it is best to learn all you can about guages/notes/scale length....etc.
My good friend John Ely has a very nice learning situation for that here>
http://www.hawaiiansteel.com/learning/gauges.php
Ricky
_________________
Ricky Davis
Email Ricky: sshawaiian2362@gmail.com
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Jeremy Threlfall


From:
now in Western Australia
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2016 7:47 am    
Reply with quote

That's a really good read, Ricky, thanks.

I recently tabulated my string gauges (in inches) and the maximum and minimum frequencies each string moves between (Hz) and found that the product of these (string gauge and frequency) fell between a result of 4 and 5 for each string. Except for my bottom B which went up to 5.25 or something on the raise. I think the result would have popped down under 5 if I allowed for the -12 cents that I temper that raise and if I nominated a .036 gauge instead of an .038

I don't know what I was hoping to discover, it seemed a mighty profound discovery at the time , but hasn't improved my life any (and I still use a .038 )

The information Ricky linked to is far more interesting ....
_________________
Luke Drifter on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/ralwaybell
https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.j.threlfall
http://ralwaybell.bandcamp.com/
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Stephen Williams

 

From:
from Wales now in Berkeley,Ca, USA
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2016 11:14 pm    
Reply with quote

Jeremy you have discovered Threlfall's Law. To wit:

The product of the frequency shift and the gauge of the string = 42 'er I mean 4.2.

It is now in common use but at the time of it's discovery people were playing pedal steels with only 10 or so strings, and Adams's law that Pedal steels sound best with 42 strings was still waiting to be discovered.

btw i loved living in west australia back in the day. One day i shall visit again.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
b0b


From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jul 2016 7:52 am    
Reply with quote

That's some really strange math, Jeremy. String gauge in inches times vibration frequency in Hz. I would never have thought of doing that.

Derrick, I would use .014 for the high E, and .020 for the G#.
_________________
-𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Jeremy Threlfall


From:
now in Western Australia
Post  Posted 21 Jul 2016 8:05 am    
Reply with quote

Yeah, I guess it gives you cycle inches per second! I didn't expect it to mean anything, was just interested that the meaningless statistic came out so uniform for each string
_________________
Luke Drifter on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/ralwaybell
https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.j.threlfall
http://ralwaybell.bandcamp.com/
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Derrick Unger

 

From:
Newark Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 2:38 pm    
Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies...been playing with the gauges I metioned now for a couple weeks and they are working out pretty well....really holding tune!!! that's a good thing for me
_________________
Music is good for the soul..playing it is even better! Gretsch6strLapSteel*PeaveyNashville400*HudsonSD-10*DigitechRP360*FenderChampion100*PeaveyKB300*Goodrich120*Behringerx1204*BehringerMini4*Mullen S10"Discovery"*Peavey Vegas400*Princeton112plus*SuperChampX2*SidekickReverb65*Rumble100*MarshallMG50DFX*Nashville112
View user's profile Send private message

All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  
Please review our Forum Rules and Policies
Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction, and steel guitar accessories
www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

The Steel Guitar Forum
148 S. Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Click Here to Send a Donation

Email SteelGuitarForum@gmail.com for technical support.


BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles for Band-in-a-Box
by Jim Baron