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Bill Hatcher
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Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2004 2:31 pm |
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Ebay #3742172921.
Not making fun of it, just a salute to the effort of someone making their own steel from door hinges and bent metal and nuts and bolts. |
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 13 Aug 2004 3:19 pm
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| That instrument is a tribute to ingenuity. I think the strapping that retains the changer gives it a unique character. Too bad there's no underside shots. [This message was edited by Ray Minich on 13 August 2004 at 04:19 PM.] |
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Herman Visser
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Rohnert Park, California, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2004 4:17 pm
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| That one I would like to hear play. I bet the under side is made out of hangers. It might be worth the shipping fee to hear it play. I thinking about it, as American foke art.When i was a kid I made or tried to make my own from a 4x6 and two old guitars.YES it did play wish I would have keep it . |
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Walter Jones
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Athens, Ohio USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2004 4:49 pm
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Well guys, I have a picture of the builder when the guitar made its debut at a steel guitar show. If someone would like to post it I will email it to you, I don't know how to post pictures. The idea was to build it out of whatever he could come with. The strings and the pickup and tuning keys were the only things purchased if I remember right. Now you ask if it played alright. Mike Sigler was there and played Foggy Mountain Breakdown as well as some other tunes. Sounded pretty darn good to me. This guitar would be a good one for the test of those that say they can tell the sound of a certain guitar, turn them around and Let Mike play it and give it your best shot. Since I don't think it ever had a name I dubbed it the "$60 steel", that is what the guy said he had in it.
It has parts of hospital bed rails, barn door hinges for pedals. The fingers in the changer was eye bolts ground down with a groove to keep the strings in place, pretty crude but it did work to some degree.
I think it was the hit of the show if you consider for what it was intended. |
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Bill Hatcher
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Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2004 5:05 pm
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What year Walter???
So very cool that you recognize this instrument and know the maker and the story on it! |
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Lem Smith
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Long Beach, MS
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Posted 13 Aug 2004 7:19 pm
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In the Steel Guitarist Magazine double issue, that Tom Bradshaw published, there was an article about doing this very thing, plus there was info on converting an old warp-necked acoustic into a resonator as well. Interesting reading, and it showed that a pedal steel, although quite "different" looking, could be had on the cheap.
Lem |
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Stephen Gambrell
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Over there
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Posted 13 Aug 2004 9:44 pm
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| Hasn't this thing been on before? I KNOW there can't be two of 'em??? |
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Ron !
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Posted 13 Aug 2004 10:27 pm
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I too am building a steel right now but i can teel you that it does not look like this one.Not by a long shot.If any one want pics of the one that i am building just send your mail adres and i will send you a picture of the guitar.I am putting on the changerunit and the shafts with the bellcranks today.So the picture is not one of the finished guitar.That will be on in a few weeks i think.
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Walter Jones
From:
Athens, Ohio USA
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Posted 14 Aug 2004 4:50 pm
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Stephen Grambell, you have to be right. This makes the 3rd time it has surfaced for me. Here is another story about this guitar. I was sitting home listening to the radio swap shop one morning and this guy advertized a 10 string Emmons with 3 pedals for $300. I called immediately, got the directions, picked up my neighbor and was off like a shot with the chance of first refusal on the guitar.
Knowing the individual that had it for sale, I told my neighbor that I had an idea what he might have. He described it with the pedals but no knee levers, wasn't really sure what knee levers were. It also didn't say Emmons on it anywhere. When we arrived at the place we walked into the garage and there it sat, just what you see in the picture on Ebay.
I was nice to him and explained to him that it wasn't an Emmons but that was OK, you never know what you will find. He said he wouldn't tell anyone else it was an Emmons, then we left. My neighbor couldn't believe I had described the guitar pretty close before we got there and as it turned out I was right. But the thrill of the chase was still worth the 20 mile trip.[This message was edited by Walter Jones on 14 August 2004 at 05:56 PM.] |
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Ed Naylor
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portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 5:35 am
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| Here's the rest of the story--A fellow came in my store about 4 years ago and wanted parts so he could build a Steel.All he wanted was a pickup-tuning keys and a fretboard.I had an old Sho-Bud PU Fretboard and some cheap keys.He later came back with it "Finished" and I had him bring it to our Steel Show.Walt Jones is right. Mike Sigler played the 'Snot" out of it and it sounded great. There is a lesson to be learned here. Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works. |
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Peter
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 6:25 am
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| There is a lesson to be learned here. Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works. |
Ed, what lesson would that be?
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Peter den Hartogh
1978 Emmons S10 P/P; 1977 Sho-Bud D10 ProIII Custom;
1975 Fender Artist S10; Remington U12; 1947 Gibson BR4;
Internationally Accredited 3D Animation Academy
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Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 7:06 am
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| Peter- The lesson here is don't go on the forum and "blast" any dealer,MFG,or repairman. Unfortunately some players want to be experts and make changes that were not part of the original builder design then realize they were wrong. I have been in this business 40 years and personally know all the Mfg.As far as I can tell they all want one thing-- TRY to help people get into STEEL GUITAR. Ed |
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Peter
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 8:27 am
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Ed, I was under the impression that quote: "the idea was to build this guitar out of whatever he could come with".
Was this fellow a well known manufacturer?
And why is this lesson about "blasting" ?[This message was edited by Peter on 15 August 2004 at 10:16 AM.] |
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Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 9:44 am
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| Peter- This fellow had never owned or played a Steel.AS I recall a few months ago you were less than complimentary with GRUHN guitar over a Remington you had bought.I had at one time added some changes the customer wanted and he was unhappy because he played "Barefooted" and it played hard. Also I think I sent you some parts free to help solve your problem.Did you get your Remington working??? ED. |
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Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 10:22 am
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| To add to the story-The nut rollers were 8-32 nuts rounded and grooved.As it was being built I helped him cut some rods etc because he didn't have tools. Also-I have the Video of the Show with Mike playing it. Everybody went nuts. Herby Wallace was there,Billy Robinson, and many more players. Maybe I should send it to Americas Funniest Home Videos. Or sell them and donate the money to Animal shelters. Ed |
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Peter
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 11:19 am
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Yes Ed, the Remington is working great now.
Everybody raves about it! 
The original guitar was an excellent well-built guitar, but the guitar was mistreated.
I had to remove all junk parts someone put in there and replace them with originals where I could.
I could not use your parts unforunately.
Ed, do you still have the original Remington pedals and pedal-axel in your garage?
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Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 11:50 am
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| Again for the record-The original parts used in your Remington were Nashville LTD parts that were used prior to 1993.Your Guitar has to be pre 1993.When I bought LTD in 93 I discontinued using those parts.I don't know here you got "ORIGINAL" parts. The "JUNK PARTS" {as you call them}are standard parts I have sold to tons of people over the years and I have never had a complaint about their quality.ED |
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Peter
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Peter
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 12:43 pm
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Ed, do you still have the original Remington pedals and pedal-axel in your garage?
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Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 12:45 pm
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| Among my tons of guitars and parts, I have a pedal board with pedals made out of "Hinges". It was a proto type rack made by a person well known on the forum. I WILL NOT REVEAL THE NAME OF THIS PERSON. ED |
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Peter
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 12:50 pm
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| Ed, do you still have the original Remington pedals and pedal-axel in your garage? |
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Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 1:30 pm
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| Yes- They are part of my Historic collection of parts no longer made. And NO they are not for sale.Ed |
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Peter
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Posted 15 Aug 2004 1:55 pm
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| No problem Ed, I already replaced the junk pedals. |
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