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b0b


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Post  Posted 15 May 2016 10:19 pm    
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https://youtu.be/tJq1NCCvICU

Is Willie running his old guitar through a vintage Baldwin amp? My first stage amp for pedal steel was that same model with the colored pushbuttons.
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Bill L. Wilson


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Post  Posted 16 May 2016 12:10 am     Those Old Baldwin Amps.
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I think Willie owns several of those amps. I've heard he favors them for the tone he gets playing "Trigger" thru'em....A music store in Dallas carried those amps and I wanted one so bad when I was a kid....It was the colorful switches, on a blue amp that I thought looked so cool, and I liked the sound of them.....And it's possible, I thought Blue Amps had better tone.
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Bill Sinclair


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Post  Posted 16 May 2016 4:48 am    
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From the angle at about 3:20 on, it looks like Willie's playing through an old Magnatone and the tele player is using the Baldwin. Can't say for sure. Some of those old Magnatones are renowned for their true pitch-shifting vibrato - kinda' like Willie! Smile
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Randy Tatman

 

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Post  Posted 16 May 2016 7:12 am     Baldwin
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I believe the story goes that Willie had a deal with Baldwin. They supplied him an amp and guitar. The guitar had issues and he pulled the pickup and installed it in Trigger. I believe he still uses the Baldwin amps.
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Scott Duckworth


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Post  Posted 16 May 2016 7:25 am    
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I couldn't find the article, but seems like I read Willie has a staff tech that has spare parts for the amp and keeps it running for him. You can bet it travels in a bullet proof road case too!
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Randy Tatman

 

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Post  Posted 16 May 2016 10:53 am     Baldwin
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I believe it to be a Baldwin C1 Professional.
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Post  Posted 16 May 2016 3:08 pm    
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I've opened for Willie a couple of times and he always had one of those pieces of junk Baldwins, I had one when I was about 13. I'll bet there are about a thousand other amps that would sound better but hey, Willie is Willie.
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Post  Posted 16 May 2016 4:03 pm    
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Sometimes the uniqueness of a "junk amp" will cut through the mix of all the high-class amps on stage. I remember seeing Merle testing his Tele (I don't know what amp it was) and thinking "surely he's not going to use that tone!". It sounded really bad. But when the band started, Merle's guitar stood out from everything else, and that made it great.
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Post  Posted 17 May 2016 7:06 am    
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Way back in about 1972 or so, I got my first amp. The guy (kid) I bought it from was a little ahead of me, and he had a Baldwin similar to that one but bigger.

So what was the amp I bought? His dad had assembled a Heathkit 60w with 2x12. Being all of 14 or 15, it was loud so I thought it sounded great. I used to turn it up and run an old Fuzz-Wah pedal through it. I beat the living snot out of it, and it never gave me any problems.
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Post  Posted 17 May 2016 7:37 am    
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Some info on WIllie's Balwin C-1 amp:

From our forum... "I do know that Willie buys everyone of these amps he can find."

From http://stillisstillmoving.com/willienelson/willie-nelson-interview-frets-magazine-december-1984/ ... "Each time I come across a used Baldwin amp, I try to buy it so I can use the parts for replacements on this one. I’ve got a couple of them."
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 17 May 2016 3:00 pm    
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b0b, the Baldwin amp comes from when he played a Baldwin guitar and amp.. The guitar got destroyed. He removed the Prismatone pickup from the guitar, went to Shot Jackson, asked Shot to put the pickup in a new guitar for him. The Martin was picked out, and the rest is history. Trigger with a Prismatone on board through a Baldwin amp.
You can buy three of those Baldwin amps for the price of a single Prismatone.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 18 May 2016 12:56 pm    
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I guess I am wrong. A Prismatone pickup sold on eBay for $2,800 in February. I thought they were still $1400 pickups.
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b0b


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Post  Posted 18 May 2016 1:09 pm    
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When I was a teenager, I went to the Baldwin showroom in Pittsburgh. They had guitars, basses and amps, and an electric harpsichord. That was so cool!

My Baldwin amp also had the coolest reverb spring I've ever seen. I couldn't find a photo, but here's a drawing that sort of describes the shape:


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Post  Posted 18 May 2016 1:12 pm    
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was the spring about 3/8ths or 1/4 at the ends and 3/4 or an inch in the center? Nine inches long, or longer or shorter? Two or four of them?

Thanks for drawing.
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Post  Posted 18 May 2016 6:19 pm     Article in Premier Magazinr
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Article in Premier Magazine about this mode<<Click

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Post  Posted 18 May 2016 7:07 pm    
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Chris Lucker wrote:
was the spring about 3/8ths or 1/4 at the ends and 3/4 or an inch in the center? Nine inches long, or longer or shorter? Two or four of them?

Thanks for drawing.

It's been a long time, Chris, but in my mind's eye I see 1/4" to 3/4". It was short, maybe shorter than 9". Also, I think there was only one spring in the unit.

I went out rummaging in the garage looking for it, couldn't find it. It's probably long gone.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 19 May 2016 8:46 am    
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Very interesting, b0b. I may stop by Century Spring next time driving by DowntownLis Angeles and see what they have to try out.
Thanks.
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Glenn Suchan

 

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Post  Posted 31 May 2016 10:18 am    
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Years ago, the band I was with played a show at Auditorium Shores, in Austin. Our set came before the headliner, Willie and the Family Band. Our instruments were going direct into the main system.

Before our set stared, Willie's friend and stage manager, the late Poodie Locke told me I should play through Willie's Baldwin which was already set up near where I was to play. He said "Willie's amp sounds great - better than going through the mains". I said something like "I dunno know, Poodie, Willie might get P.O'ed if I play through his rig". Poodie assured me that it would be OK with Willie. At that point, how could I turn him down? Oh Well

The long and the short of it - my tone wasn't what I was used to, nor was it as good sounding as 'Trigger' played through the Baldwin amp. Next time that I'm told to play through Willie's amp (like that's gonna ever happen again) I'll spring for a Prismatone pickup to be installed on my steel guitar. Laughing

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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 31 May 2016 10:27 am    
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And nylon strings.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 31 May 2016 10:31 am    
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I know this is an earlier thread, but I remember seeing this show on PBS and I'm pretty sure that was Willie's son playing guitar through the Magnatone. It was a good show too. Willie sounded like Willie always does on the Baldwin.
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