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Topic: Emmons Black Album Reissue . . . ? |
Mark Hepler
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2018 8:00 am
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Let’s re-release Buddy’s Emmons Guitar, Inc. (Black Album) digitally before the masters disappear.
Maybe a forum member knows a music business person who will make it happen . . . or the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame can get behind it?
Any interest?
Also, Picks The Famous Sho-Bud Guitars would be a good artifact to salvage before the tapes wind up in a dumpster. |
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scott murray
From: Asheville, NC
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Posted 25 Jan 2018 11:11 am
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wasn't it released on CD at some point?
every household in the world should have a copy. _________________ 1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster |
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Aaron Johnson
From: Lemoore, CA
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Posted 25 Jan 2018 11:16 am
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I would like a copy, digital or LP. |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 25 Jan 2018 11:23 am
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It was already re-released on CD. Not sure where you can get copies but it definitely is out there in digital format.
As for the SG Hall of Fame getting behind a project, well, you must not get out much... They are defunct. _________________ www.JimCohen.com
www.RonstadtRevue.com
www.BeatsWalkin.com |
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Jack Hanson
From: San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2018 11:41 am
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Who retains ownership? Presumably the Lashley's? If so, don't hold your breath. |
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Mark Hepler
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2018 2:03 pm Rip it . . .
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I've never seen it sold on CD anywhere, just vinyl, but a CD edition shows up on Discogs . . . so . . . ?
If it will never be released again, I wish someone would rip the CD and post it for guys who don't own it, and for posterity. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2018 3:12 pm
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the Emmons company sold CDs of it for a while. They even wholesaled them out, and I had them in The Forum's online store. Then they stopped responding to my purchase orders and they were all gone.
It's one of the best albums ever, in my opinion. It was like the Sgt Peppers of steel guitar music. _________________ -𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Jack Strayhorn
From: Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted 25 Jan 2018 7:38 pm
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Ron Lashley should still own the publishing rights and masters. Ron Sr had Steve Palusek remaster in the 90's and had CD's produced. Around 05' I attempted to negotiate a buyout which was not going to include publishing. Steve's master did not have the extreme panning of the original. |
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Jonathan Shacklock
From: London, UK
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Marco Schouten
From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 26 Jan 2018 5:15 am
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I've digitized all my vinyl albums, that way they never wear out. _________________ ----------------------------------
JCH SD-10 with BL XR-16 pickup, Sho-Bud Volume Pedal, Evidence Audio Lyric HG cables, Quilter Steelaire combo |
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Mark Hepler
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2018 6:07 am 16,000 Emmons Fans Can't Be Wrong
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It's heartening to see so much interest in the reissue idea.
It sounds like Jack already tried to get rights:
Jack, Do you think you could contact them again? Maybe the Forum could retail it? (I'm good at spending other people's money and time-ha)
I'm pretty sure 16,000 forum members would snag one . . . I'd like to own it. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2018 8:37 am
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Marco Schouten wrote: |
I've digitized all my vinyl albums, that way they never wear out. |
True, but the devices that play digital music go obsolete every few years. _________________ -𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Marco Schouten
From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 26 Jan 2018 11:51 am
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b0b wrote: |
Marco Schouten wrote: |
I've digitized all my vinyl albums, that way they never wear out. |
True, but the devices that play digital music go obsolete every few years. |
If it ever happens, I still have a turntable and the original black album. _________________ ----------------------------------
JCH SD-10 with BL XR-16 pickup, Sho-Bud Volume Pedal, Evidence Audio Lyric HG cables, Quilter Steelaire combo |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 26 Jan 2018 12:53 pm
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I don't think cd players will ever disappear. Too many cds still floating around. They may be harder to find, same as turntables did. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Al Udeen
From: maple grove mn usa
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Posted 26 Jan 2018 7:52 pm Black Album for sale
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I have a mint Emmons Black Album, It still has the clear plastic covering on the jacket it may have been played once or not. I will take offers to any prospects, Thanks
Al Udeen |
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Bill C. Buntin
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Posted 27 Jan 2018 6:23 am
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Al I'm interested in the vinyl.
I had a CD, that has disappeared, for whatever reason, but I'm almost sure I got the CD from Scotty. Several years ago I talked with Scotty about this, there seemed to be a lot of interest at the time. It would be great if it could be offered into the mass digital market.
Same for Curly's work, Jimmy Day, Tom Morrell and a host of others.
If anyone has CDs, let me know too, please.
~Bill~ |
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Bill C. Buntin
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Posted 27 Jan 2018 6:24 am Emmons Black LP
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Al, I sent you a PM.
~Bill~ |
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Bill Erchul
From: Raleigh, NC, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2018 11:46 am
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I talked to Ron and Rebecca 10+ years ago about a re-release when they had about 20 CDs left. I remember steering them toward CD Baby and iTunes to explore download options but they felt the revenue wouldn't be enough. Having received "tens of dollars" annually myself from CD Baby/iTunes, I really couldn't blame them. |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 27 Jan 2018 12:52 pm
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Bill Erchul wrote: |
I talked to Ron and Rebecca 10+ years ago about a re-release when they had about 20 CDs left. I remember steering them toward CD Baby and iTunes to explore download options but they felt the revenue wouldn't be enough. Having received "tens of dollars" annually myself from CD Baby/iTunes, I really couldn't blame them. |
Thats nonsense, especially if they own all the publishing rights. They could assign it over to someone and authorize only digital downloads. Literally no investment. NO CD's , no plastic cases, no printing.
CDBABY, ITUNES etc , millions of artists have tracks available for download at a very minimal fee , in some cases there is no fee, just a fee is collected when tracks are sold. Like me ! Earning tens of dollars or even a few hundred dollars sure beats earning ZERO dollars.
These days probably every artist can't wait to finish a project and get it up on the net for download. Everyday is an opportunity to earn a few dollars and you don't even have to get out of bed or leave the house. _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Dale Rottacker
From: Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2018 3:09 pm
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Tony Prior wrote: |
Bill Erchul wrote: |
I talked to Ron and Rebecca 10+ years ago about a re-release when they had about 20 CDs left. I remember steering them toward CD Baby and iTunes to explore download options but they felt the revenue wouldn't be enough. Having received "tens of dollars" annually myself from CD Baby/iTunes, I really couldn't blame them. |
Thats nonsense, especially if they own all the publishing rights. They could assign it over to someone and authorize only digital downloads. Literally no investment. NO CD's , no plastic cases, no printing.
CDBABY, ITUNES etc , millions of artists have tracks available for download at a very minimal fee , in some cases there is no fee, just a fee is collected when tracks are sold. Like me ! Earning tens of dollars or even a few hundred dollars sure beats earning ZERO dollars.
These days probably every artist can't wait to finish a project and get it up on the net for download. Everyday is an opportunity to earn a few dollars and you don’t even have to get out of bed or leave the house. |
“Crumbs†she said... sorry couldn’t help myself _________________ Dale Rottacker, Steelinatune™
https://www.youtube.com/@steelinatune
*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
https://msapedalsteels.com
http://rittenberrysteelguitars.com
https://www.telonics.com/index.php
https://www.p2pamps.com
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 27 Jan 2018 5:45 pm
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Back in the Old Country I had this on vinyl. I've long since lost track of that, though.
My memory is hazy but I'm pretty sure I was given a complimentary CD by Jim Aycoth at Emmons with one or other of the two new Emmons LeGrandes I bought from the factory (along with a tee-shirt or two ). Some of my happiest steel guitar memories have been my dealings with Jim and Joanne Aycoth.
I'm happy to say I still have the CD and I play it often. _________________ Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles and Martins - and, at last, a Gibson Super 400!
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Jerry Jones
From: Franklin, Tenn.
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 28 Jan 2018 1:56 am
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I registered with this outlet but did not give them any money. Indeed you can get tracks for as little as 17 cents but some of the reviews state that there is CC fraud associated. It's either a Russian or Chinese outlet, or something like that.
I still just think that Jr should register the Black album with I tunes or CD baby at 99 cents a track. It costs nothing to do it.
"Crumbs" is what birds eat to stay alive ! _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Bill Erchul
From: Raleigh, NC, USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2018 1:56 pm
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Hey Tony, you could be right about the sales potential of downloads when publishing rights are owned. All I know is that at the time, the Lashleys didn't see a favorable cost/benefit ratio and didn't have a legal eagle to sort the issues out for them. If they had had the $ back then, I'm sure they would have been happy to simply burn more CDs. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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