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Topic: Anti-Detuning Devices |
Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 9 Aug 2004 12:27 pm |
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Emmons has their counter force device, to offset "cabinet drop". Do any other guitar makers offer such a thing?
At one time, Remington was advertising that they had a device on their guitars. Did it work?
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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande
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C Dixon
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Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2004 1:17 pm
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Excel has it now as standard equipment on their popular Superb models. However it works at the keyless end; instead of the changer end.
Also, unlike the Emmons' LeGrande III's, it does not work on pushing against a fixed axle. Rather the keyless tuning finger ass'y floats against a stop when the strings are installed and brought up to pitch.
Then, the conterforce adjusters (almost identical to Emmons') on each selected pedal pulls this finger assy in such a manner, that it raises the strings ever so slightly. The gear ratio is I believe, greater than Emmons. Not 100% positive.
If this is true, one would barely feel it at all. Thus, counterforcing the cabinet drop to zero, when the adjustment is correct; with little additonal effort pressing the pedals.
It is quite engenuous. A tip of the hat to Mitsuo for once again, coming up with a uniquely clever device for the steel guitar.
Finally, Remington did offer a counterforce system once. But I do not know whether that is still an option,
A Better Way
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Doc Hall
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Galveston, Tx
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 8:15 am
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| I had a Remington with a detuning device. Herb referred to it as a "turtle". It was basically an adjustable truss rod that put pressure on the changer axle. I found that it compensated for some of the body drop, but certainly not all. It seems to me that it was an incremental approach to an issue that is more complex. The great Bobby Bowman might shed light on the Remington "turtle." |
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