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Allan Haley

 

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British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 22 May 2016 8:17 pm    
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Hi PS friends.
How do your ABC pedals line up with F and D knee levers? Are they straight up and down? My ABC pedals are left of the knee levers. I'm thinking about moving them one position right. That would take me a few hours and a few more grey hairs, so want to poll the forum first.
Thanks
Al
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Dave Meis


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Olympic Peninsula, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 22 May 2016 8:48 pm    
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Probably going to be a case of where you sit. Seems they would HAVE to be to left of the levers unless you sit at about the 8th fret...your left leg is at an angle when you sit around fret 12/15, so having the pedals left of the levers makes sense. Hope this helps..
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 23 May 2016 12:22 am    
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On my Zum, LKL hangs between pedals 2 and 3 (that's under the nut), and LKR hangs between 4 and 5 (about fret 6).
On my MSA, LKL hangs between pedals 3 and 4 (about fret 2), and LKR hangs next to 5, if there was a 6th pedal, it'd be between the two (about fret 8 or so).
Comparison of comfort between the two is made harder because the MSA is an S-12 and the Zum is a D-10.
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Ronnie Boettcher


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Post  Posted 23 May 2016 4:50 am    
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I believe each person has a different make up in their size, and body. As for me, I have a LDG Sho~Bud, and I moved both left knee levers almost 2 inches to the left. from where they were, I had trouble using the A pedal, and the LKL, and clearing the B pedal. My ankle would not bend far enough. I sat with rulers, and paper and pencil, and figured out how far to move them, before I actually drilled new holes, and moved them. After I got done moving them, it was a dream to play. Think the whole move took about a hour.
Do not hesitate to make a move on your steel. You will be more comfortable having a steel fir "YOU".
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 23 May 2016 7:13 am    
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The knee levers are just slightly right of the A pedal. However, the floor pedals on my Franklin are more centered than Zum or Emmons.

I used to play an Emmons PP and never gave it a thought. But after 30 plus years with the Franklin when I sit at a Zum or Emmons I have a helluva time with the E9th pedals. I tend to want to pedal the B and C instead of A and B.
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Len Amaral

 

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Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post  Posted 23 May 2016 7:42 am    
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This is great topic as I had been thinking of ergonomics and how the knee levers are positioned to be easily reached. I can't play a guitar where you have to reach or position yourself in an uncomfortable position to activate a lever. Lots of tweaking when I get a new steel and I probably put the steel on the bench 40 times to make adjustments and manipulating levers. When I get it just right I can play the guitar without thinking what my feet and knees are doing.
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 23 May 2016 10:38 am    
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sometimes that's what you have to do.
but some steels i've had it was just a matter of adjusting the angle of the levers with the adjusters on the guitar already. i would try that first, along with where you position yourself behind the steel, which for most people is a little to the right of center.
moving things around underneath can mess things up if you aren't experienced at doing so.
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Charley Bond


From:
Inola, OK, USA
Post  Posted 23 May 2016 12:07 pm     levers & pedal loaction
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I moved my LEFT knee levers to the right about 2 spaces. I used two quarters to gauge the move.



The setup was way more comfortable
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Tom Campbell

 

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Houston, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 23 May 2016 3:40 pm    
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Hey Charley...that's cheating, all you have to do is loosen two set screws and move the lever(s) along the back rail...but I cheat too; I also play a Sierra Winking
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Charley Bond


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Inola, OK, USA
Post  Posted 23 May 2016 4:09 pm     moving lever on a Sierra
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Tom, you may think in those terms, but remember the other Left Knee Lever has to move too. Both moved right 2 holes.
Very soon I will have my vertical on this guitar, plus a beautiful new Pad... the real way to change a Sierra Pedal Steel Guitar.
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