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Topic: Looks like a Sho~Bud D-9 Permanent on eBay |
Mike DiAlesandro
From: Kent, Ohio
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Bob Muller
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2016 10:03 pm
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Looks like some Sho-Bud parts, But I don't think the guitar was made by Sho-Bud. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 13 Apr 2016 10:09 pm
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The underside and tailpiece look like the one I have at home. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Bob Muller
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2016 10:31 pm
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Lane, can you post a photo of the one you have like this? |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 5:48 am
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Here. BTW, if you have any whiffletrees/yokes hanging around, I could use a couple.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=286192 _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 9:15 am
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Bob Muller wrote: |
Looks like some Sho-Bud parts, But I don't think the guitar was made by Sho-Bud. |
why would you say that? looks like an old
bud to me! |
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Herb Steiner
From: Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 9:28 am
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Looks like a real old Bud to me also, and I wonder what's under that black paint. The leg/endplate situation looks funky, and it's missing a heim connector on one of the pedal rods.
My usual feeling that, in adding value to the world, an instrument like this should be restored if the money was reasonable and without regard to resale value necessarily, but this would be a project, fer sure. I don't know if it's worth it (to me) to drop one large on this one. Could be one bad surprise when the paint gets removed. _________________ My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Bob Muller
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 10:09 am
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Ok, I just have not seen a cabinet end Bud made quite like this. Most old Buds have 3/4 leg ends, pedal rods hook to the guitar, and cross shafts mount with different brackets just for a few things, But who knows. The guitar that Lane has is built quite different and is a Sho-Bud for sure. Lane do you have Photos of the parts you need, I may be able to help. |
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 10:23 am
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It still has 5 days to run, so who knows how high it will go. If it's genuine, the opening price of $1,000 (don't pretend $999 isn't $1,000) would seem like a good price. |
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Aaron Jennings
From: Montana, USA
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 10:54 am
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This has many of the features of the D-8 I recently acquired. Fretboards are obviously not original.
Notice the matching colors on the selector-switch and (totally awesome) pickups.
I'm also curious about the ends -- no switches or output jack, just pots.
I hope this goes to someone who is going to restore it, for sure! |
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 12:50 pm
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To me, the fingerboards don't look original. Didn't Sho-Buds of that era all have black fingerboards with white frets and playing card symbols? Mine do.
And what's with the black paint? Sho-Buds were always natural stained wood. |
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Bob Muller
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 1:02 pm
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Close example but it is a D-10
Example of D-8 cabinet end
The D-9 does look like a good project guitar, but I am not sure who made the cabinet. |
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Aaron Jennings
From: Montana, USA
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 1:52 pm
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Bob, I see what you mean now. Here's a picture of the underside from the ebay auction.
The wood joints (pardon, not a luthier or expert by any means) look a little 'crude' compared to other old bud cabinets. In this picture it looks to me like it is wider at one end? (Or the metal is shorter). |
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Herb Steiner
From: Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 2:19 pm
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Alan Brookes wrote: |
And what's with the black paint? Sho-Buds were always natural stained wood. |
Not always. I briefly had a D-8 that was painted wood, with original decals attached. _________________ My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Todd Clinesmith
From: Lone Rock Free State Oregon
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 2:55 pm
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I don't think it is an original build either. As far as the cabinet goes.
Shouldn't there be a coil tap switch for the pickups ?
Tho the pickup material looks like something that Sho Bud would have used , the are a bit more rounded than I normally see.
Most Stratospheric Pickups I've seen have the riveted ends ( with spacers inside) next to the outside poles?
I don't see the usual 3 screws around the pickup for adjusting the pickup height either.
I have an very early D-9 that have the features I listed.
I'm not saying it isn't Sho Bud made, I'm no expert. I just would not pay $1000 and take a chance on it.
I'd like to wrong here tho...
The early Sho Bud Perms sound amazing. _________________ face book page:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Clinesmith-Instruments/1457245817911268?ref=bookmarks |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 4:28 pm
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Aaron Jennings wrote: |
This has many of the features of the D-8 I recently acquired. Fretboards are obviously not original.
Notice the matching colors on the selector-switch and (totally awesome) pickups.
I'm also curious about the ends -- no switches or output jack, just pots.
I hope this goes to someone who is going to restore it, for sure! |
No need for a jack. It's the wireless model. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Apr 2016 5:23 pm
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Looks similar to this wood-end perm from about '58 or '59. I remember seeing "Big John" Bechtel playing one, too, at Sunset Park in '65. His was a D8 converted later to a D9.
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 15 Apr 2016 9:54 am
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Herb Steiner wrote: |
...I briefly had a D-8 that was painted wood, with original decals attached. |
Are you sure it left the factory in that condition? |
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Dan Behringer
From: Jerseyville, Illinois
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Posted 15 Apr 2016 6:29 pm
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I wonder what the chances are that’s my Dad’s old Sho Bud? I know he order a double 9 from Shot Jackson around 1959. He said everyone else was playing double 8's back then and he thought he’d be ahead of the game by getting a 9 string.
He removed the white fret board once to clean it and ended up soaking most the paint off of it. He had a gig that night so he hand painted the fret board in a hurry. I could understand why someone would replace it. It was still that way when he sold it around 1972.
Anyone have any idea how many double 9's would have been made? |
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