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David Lynch Jnr

 

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Queensland, Australia
Post  Posted 11 Apr 2016 10:56 pm    
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Can anyone tell me anything about this steel? Brand COLTONE Dad aquired it around 84 its a 4 pedal raise only cable steel looking to set it up and need some tuning and copedent advice please
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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2016 1:55 am    
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I do believe Guyatone made a few pedal steels, and probably branded them several different ways as most of the MIJ guitar companies did, depending on who sold them..
It looks like a MIJ steel as best I can see.. Seen a few like that with what looks like bicycle cables for the mechanism.. I love oddball stuff like that.. I imagine most here would advise you to use some sort of a C6 set up, but I would use an open E7 or E6, and raise the B a full tone, G# a half tone, E a full tone, and try and giving a bit of a "traditional E9" capability.. Probably a C6 is your best bet however for a wider variety of musical styles... bob
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Tom Gorr

 

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Three Hills, Alberta
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2016 3:55 am    
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At first I thought it was a left guitar. .. its a righty with the keyhead and changer opposite of regular. .. wild looking guitar.
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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2016 8:13 am    
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Bob Carlucci wrote:
I do believe Guyatone made a few pedal steels, and probably branded them several different ways as most of the MIJ guitar companies did, depending on who sold them..
It looks like a MIJ steel as best I can see.. Seen a few like that with what looks like bicycle cables for the mechanism.. I love oddball stuff like that.. I imagine most here would advise you to use some sort of a C6 set up, but I would use an open E7 or E6, and raise the B a full tone, G# a half tone, E a full tone, and try and to obtain a bit of a "traditional E9" capability.. Probably a C6 is your best bet however for a wider variety of musical styles... bob

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Doug Beaumier


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Northampton, MA
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2016 8:44 am    
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Yep, it's a Guyatone/Teisco MIJ pedal steel. I've seen a couple of these over the years. Some G'tone features are the pickups, the selector buttons, and the bridge. But the dead giveaway is the separate rack of foot pedals (not attached to the guitar) with cables. Guyatone PSGs had that.
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Jeff Mead


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London, England
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2016 8:54 am     Re: Vintage Steel
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David Lynch Jnr wrote:
Can anyone tell me anything about this steel? Brand COLTONE Dad aquired it around 84 its a 4 pedal raise only cable steel looking to set it up and need some tuning and copedent advice please


The first question is what style of music do you want to play on it?

For mid 60's onwards country style, I'd say a basic version of E9 with A&B pedalsand an E raise for sure. I'm guessing it is a simple changer and won't allow you to raise a string to 2 separate notes so maybe use the 4th pedal to either raise F# to G or G# or the D to E?

If you want to play more jazz or swing a variation on C6 (or any other 6th tuning) would work.

For rock/blues you should have a look at some of the E7 based sacred steel tunings.

If you can narrow it down to one of those 3 areas, I'm sure there are people who will chip in with ideas on the specifics.

It's a pretty basic instrument but between the 8 strings and 4 pedals, there'll be plenty of music to keep you busy for a good while.
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Mark Hershey

 

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New York, USA
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2016 10:30 am    
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I have a new attitude about copedents. I was stressing them for the last couple of months for my new guitar.

Ask yourself what's your ultimate goal? Mine would be to play in an old school country band or play the hippie stuff like Jerry. So I've pretty much pulled changes from the available copedents out there. Find the players you like google their copedents and use their changes.

Good Luck.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2016 6:24 am    
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David, if you're clever, a pull-release CAN lower, and can even do both on a string.
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