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Topic: Tuning a Sho-Bud |
Gerald Keller
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Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 13 Feb 2015 9:07 pm |
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Having trouble tuning the E lever, fourth string to E. Can't get it from D and when I get it to a raised E, standard E with no raise. Sho-Bud L.D.G.
Suggestions? |
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richard burton
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Posted 13 Feb 2015 9:48 pm
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I don't know what tuning you are in, but I'm going to assume it's E9
The 4th string should be tuned at the keyhead to E, then press pedal C and tune it to f# using the relevant nylon tuner.
Release the pedal and activate the F knee lever and tune the 4th string to F using the relevant nylon tuner.
Release the F lever and activate the E lever and tune the 4th string to Eb using the relevant nylon tuner |
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2015 10:12 pm
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| I doubt that you can lower the 4th string to D on hardly any guitar. The normal lower would be to D# (Eb for you non-musically trained pickers). |
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Larry Waisner
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Posted 14 Feb 2015 2:29 am tuning issue
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| Your hard stop setting may need adjusted on E and F. |
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2015 5:39 am
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| Jim Smith wrote: |
| I doubt that you can lower the 4th string to D on hardly any guitar. The normal lower would be to D# (Eb for you non-musically trained pickers). |
I have used an E on string 2 for years, and lower it in 2 steps to D.. You are right, its tough on some guitars.. It would be really hard using the standard E string which is a 014 of course.. I always used an 015 on my second, same as a standard e9 setup, so it was never a major problem.. Kind of a long stroke depending on the changer.. A few steels I have used an 016 and that helps a bit more on certain changers,,, bob
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Gerald Keller
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 14 Feb 2015 9:43 am
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| Thanks to the folks that had a helpful and positive response. It is an E9 tuning and everything tunes fine except getting the E lever to tune the 4th string to an E based upon the electric tuner. Tried all suggestions. Have had problems with that particular tuning for sometime now. Suspect it is a mechanical problem and will get someone to check it since it may be above my pay grade(being a "non-musically trained picker") Again, thanks. |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Feb 2015 10:12 am
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doesn't really make sense what your problem is.
you need to be more specific about what changes by what levers are a problem.
Last edited by chris ivey on 14 Feb 2015 11:57 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Gerald Keller
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Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 14 Feb 2015 10:41 am
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| Your right Chris. "Inexperience". Just can't seem to get that reading an electric tuner down let along knowing how to turn a knob. Those are extremely difficult tasks. Thanks for your positive input; most helpful! |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Feb 2015 12:01 pm
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| sorry, didn't mean to cause you to cop an attitude. i deleted my inexperience sentence. as you can see, there is still a problem. you haven't made it clear what the function is that you're having trouble with. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 14 Feb 2015 4:58 pm
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| Gerald Keller wrote: |
| Thanks to the folks that had a helpful and positive response. It is an E9 tuning and everything tunes fine except getting the E lever to tune the 4th string to an E based upon the electric tuner. Tried all suggestions. Have had problems with that particular tuning for sometime now. Suspect it is a mechanical problem and will get someone to check it since it may be above my pay grade(being a "non-musically trained picker") Again, thanks. |
What's being said is, what exactly is the problem? If you have an E9 tuning, there is no lever to raise the 4th string to an E as the 4th string with no levers or pedals activated is already an E.
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 15 Feb 2015 6:03 am
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Dan Robinson
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2015 10:48 pm
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Hi Gerald,
Let's back up the train...
On E9th tuning, with no pedals or knee-levers engaged the 4th string should be tuned to E. Same for the 8th string.
My guess is that what you are calling "the E lever" lowers the 4th and 8th strings by a half-step, from E to D#. No way to know which lever does that on your guitar. But it doesn't matter. If you have a knee lever that lowers the 4th and 8th strings then, with that lever fully engaged, adjust the pitch of the 4th string to to D#, then adjust the 8th string likewise.
The adjustment is made with your tuning wrench on the tuning nut in the end-plate of your guitar. Watch what is moving when you press the knee-lever. That is your guide to which tuning nut to adjust. There is more to the story depending on WHICH Sho-Bud model you have. But that can be part of the next conversation.
Does that help? |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 16 Feb 2015 11:30 am
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You never said which E string so we will assume string 4 has it has the most pulls.
Back off each of the pulls to neutral. Meaning NO pull. E raise, E lower and C pedal...
One of those pulls is causing the issue . IF each of the pulls is backed out totally that E string should be at E.
Tune the string to E /440 from the tuning peg.
Adjust each 4th string pull being E raise lever , E Lower lever and E Raise C pedal ,one at a time. The E raise goes to F , E lower goes to Db...the C pedal raise goes to F#.
Good money has it that one of the pulls is causing the issue. There is only one 4th string and one finger, with a raise or a lower....But there are 3 pulls related to your 4th string and one pull finger.
start over...
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George Duncan Sypert
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Colo Spgs, Co, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2020 1:09 pm Tuning a Maverick
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Trying to tune a sho-bud Maverick, floor pedals and knee lever. I think that you have to tune the pedals first with the key heads and tune the open strings with the changer tuners. I hope that is correct.
Now how about the knee lever tuning procedure. It is lowering 2 a half step and lowering 8 a half step. Does the knee lever tune the same way or what the correct procedure.
This is not my guitar but trying to help a new owner tune his guitar as close as possible on this guitar.
Also should there be much slack in the rods underneath. This guitar has very small aluminum rods hooked into the eye of the changer finger hooked to the swivel holding rods for two strings at the pedal. Hope that makes sense.
It was originally setup to raise 1 a half step and raise the 5th string to C#. There was no C pedal so to speak. I changed the setup to lower 2 and 8 and to have the C pedal raise 4 and 5 as standard. Many players started out using the second string with no lover on 4. So I set it up way. Just need the proper procedure for adjusting the knee lever pulls and the open strings.
Thanks for any info you can provide.
George |
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