Single neck on double body for extra legroom?

Matt Hutchinson · From: London, UK

Any of you taller guys find it easier to play on a double body rather than a single? I have an S-10 and find myself feeling rather cramped playing it. Seems to me that a double bodied guitar would give me more legroom and create a better and more relaxed playing position for me. Any thoughts?

Sonny Priddy · From: Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.

Yes I Say It Would. Thats What i Play I Love Them. SONNY.

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C Dixon · From: Duluth, GA USA

ONLY way to fly. I am short and it is still the only way for me. A single neck on a single body reminds me of one of Red Skelton's classics.

"It jes don't look right! Nope, it jes don' look right"

Others will no doubt disagree

carl

[This message was edited by C Dixon on 02 July 2004 at 07:21 AM.]

Al Marcus · From: Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)

If I played a single neck on a double body , I wouldn't......

I'd get a D10........al

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Larry Bell · From: Englewood, Florida

Hate to disagree with my friend Al, but I'm with Mr. Dixon on this one. If you play a universal with any changes beyond the minimum, you may feel the need to have several staggered knee levers. I can tell you from experience that eight levers (5 left; 3 right) on a double-wide is MUCH more comfortable and operable than the same on a single body. If I played 7&5 or 8&5, it would be a tossup.

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2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps

Al Marcus · From: Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)

Larry-How are you doing in your new home in Florida?
For me , I had a Carter S12 on the usual Carter wide single(just 2 inches less than a Carter D10) and I had 8 knee levers on the back of it. It was Jr. Knight's originally. .It had a LL-LV-LR , in the middle had a LML-LMV-LMR and on the right leg had LR-RR it was very comfortable and worked very well for me.
I will admit , that I am a 6th player more so than E9.
I don't do it all melded together like you do so well, like one tuning.

I separate Country E9 from Jazz B6. It is like playing a D10 but all on one lightweight and lower cost S12.

If i were playing my "Real Universal E6" then I would only use 5 knee levers on one tuning E6-E9-E13.

To each his own.eh?.........al

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[This message was edited by Al Marcus on 02 July 2004 at 09:55 PM.]

Sidney Ralph Penton · From: Moberly, Missouri, USA

i am very new to this i have a carter starter is it is a little uncomortabe for me but i put a 2x4 under the back legs and it works great now. i am just a beginner at this (4 months) and i am learnig a lit of things. there are many different ways to tune one. my question is i know what a E 9 is i know what a C6 is but what is a E 13?

Dave Van Allen · From: Souderton, PA , US , Earth

I'm huge, and I feel much more comfortable at a double-wide or, like my zum, a 1.75or so wide loafer

Bill Ford · From: Graniteville SC Aiken

If I ever do another S12, it will be with at least a 1/2 ledge on the backside with a pad. More room for stuff underneath,looks better.imho

Bill

Wayne Cox · From: Chatham, Louisiana, USA * R.I.P.

I have tried, for years,to get a top-notch steel manufacturer to build a S-12U on a D-10 cabinet with the neck on the back 1/2 of the guitar. Its all about comfort just plain comfort,pure an simple. I have to agree with Larry about the levers,and my legs don't feel as cramped,and I don't have to lean as far forward. Just seems more natural to play on the back neck,regardless of the tuning. Downside...cosmetics. What would you do with the extra space on the front topside of the guitar? Most manufacturers won't even consider this and those that will...well,they have to charge hundreds of dollars more for less hardware than a D-10!~~W.C.~~

C Dixon · From: Duluth, GA USA

Sidney,

E13th is as follows:

E
C#
B
G#
F#
E
D
B

also for your info:

A6th

E
C#
A
F#
E
C#
A
F#

C6

E
C
A
G
E
C
A
F

Those 3 tunings were more often than not found on Fender triple 8 Lapsteels. On D-8 lap steels, usually it was C6 and either E13th or A6 split pretty evenly amongst players.

Of course there were other tunings, but these three became by far the most popular of all. It is interesting to note that many Hawaiians changed the country or western swing C6, 8 string to:

E
C
A
G
E
C
Bb
C

I may be wrong on the last 2 strings. I never played the tuning, so I stand corrected if it is in error, but I do know they have a low Bb in there. They call it C13th. I believe Alan Akaka, a Hawaiian protege' of Jerry Byrd uses it. Some consider him the best.

He gets a tone to die for. I only heard him once. Wish I could hear him a lot more.

Note: the high G on C6 is a relatively late addition. Rarely ever seen before the 10 string steels became popular like on pedal steels. IE, 99% of all lap tunings had an E note on top. This of course because the origin of the steel guitar was the Spanish Guitar and of course its top string was an E.

carl

Jim Smith · From: Midlothian, TX, USA

Wayne, contact Jerry Fessenden about your request, I bet he'd build one for you. Thinking about it though, it would be tough placing very many knee levers among all the string pulls. I'm thinking it would require a bunch of bent pull rods to go around the levers.

Matt Hutchinson · From: London, UK

Thanks for all the replies guys, maybe I need to find a double bodied guitar to try out.

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