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Topic: Convert 12 string to 10 string |
Tom Campbell
From: Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 7:03 am
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I have a 12 string steel that I am considering converting to a 10 string and was wondering what might be the best way to re-string it.
1. Remove the bottom two strings and leave it like that?
2. Restring and leave the 1st and 12th string positions open? (10 strings centered on the neck)
3. Restring and use the bottom 10 string positions and leave the top two string positions open?
Thanks for your input! |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 7:10 am
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My kneejerk reaction is why? Whatever you do you'll end up with something that looks like a 12-stringer with two busted strings. Why not sell it and buy a 10-string?
(None of my business, Tom, just thinking aloud........) _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 7:14 am
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I can see no advantage to options 2 & 3 that would make it worth rerodding the entire guitar. So #1 would win by default. |
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Tom Campbell
From: Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 8:27 am
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Yes, options two and three would require re-rodding...guess I over looked the significance of what that would entail.
Guess option one would be the easiest and give me the feel of a S10 without committing to a major change...would look strange.
Thanks for the reply's! |
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Michael Maddex
From: Northern New Mexico, USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 8:31 am
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What Jon said.
Additionally, the tuning machines without strings on them will want to vibrate sympathetically and make a racket when you are playing, so you will want to remove them or at least quiet them down with a couple of rubber bands or elastic hair-ties. It seems to me that you might as well leave the strings there and just not play them.
[Tom, it seems you responded while I was typing, but I'm posting this one anyway.]
HTH. _________________ "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 10:03 am
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Was it a U-12 or extended E9th? If it was a universal, you'll have to rerod strings 9 & 10, since there's no D in the E9/B6. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 11:38 am
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Lane Gray wrote: |
there's no D in the E9/B6 |
There might be - some folks keep it. _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 8 Mar 2016 8:46 am
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Lane Gray wrote: |
there's no D in the E9/B6 |
Ian Rae wrote: |
There might be - some folks keep it. |
Not really. If it has a D string, it interferes with a lot of the standard C6th (B6th) stuff. A 12-string with D as the 9th string is called Extended E9th, not E9/B6.
Option 1 - using just the first 10 strings - is the easiest. Option 2 - using the center 10 - is the best visually IMHO, but it's a lot of work. _________________ -𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 8 Mar 2016 9:17 am
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b0b wrote: |
If it has a D string, it interferes with a lot of the standard C6th (B6th) stuff |
Absolutely! I didn't say it was worth keeping.... _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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Tom Campbell
From: Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 8 Mar 2016 12:53 pm
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The guitar in the project would be a Sierra, keyless, 12 string.
It is currently set up with 5 knee levers and 5 pedals.
Strings are 1-12...C#,G#,F#,E,B,G#,F#,E,B,G#,E,B
The top C# is raise to a D and D#. Eighth string E is lowered to a D.
Not a traditional U12 or extended E9 type of setup on the pedals...knee levers are traditional.
I don't play the "orthodox" country material.
Thanks for the responses. |
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Len Amaral
From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 8 Mar 2016 6:52 pm
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Tom,
You have other 12 string guitars I believe? Going from a 12 string to a 10 string ergonomic wise with the hands takes getting use to if you are going back and forth between the two. Maybe leave the 12 strings on and play the 10 strings you want to? |
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Jeff Watson
From: Anza, CA. USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2016 7:56 am
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I play an 11 string tuning on a 12 string guitar (no high string) and REALLY like having all my strings visually over the fret board. Everybody ought to rerod a pedal steel at least once in their lives. |
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