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Greg Johnson


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2016 5:05 pm    
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A friend is checking this out... Any thoughts gentleman?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-10-Emmons-Push-Pull-Pedal-Steel-Guitar-INTERNATIONAL-SHIPPING-AVAILABLE-/331799434751
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Tim Russell


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2016 6:49 pm    
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Four grand for an S-10 push pull? Whoa!

Might be okay for some folks, and that sure is a pretty guitar, but I wouldn't lay out that kind of cash for it.
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Greg Johnson


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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2016 5:11 am    
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Yeah that's what I said too. There are are a lot of good guitars for sale right here and at a better price.
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Bob Carlucci

 

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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2016 6:14 am    
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Not many lacquer S10 Emmons around, and the seller knows it, and is taking advantage of the fact.... Its probably really worth about $1000 less... Even $3200 would be a more realistic price,, For $3800 you could buy a Mica S10 PP... and Shobud S10... bob
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Cartwright Thompson


Post  Posted 11 Mar 2016 7:54 am    
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I think that guitar belongs to forum member Mark Shuda. If you can avoid eBay, you might get it for less. Not having to pay eBay and PayPal fees will knock off a few bucks...
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Carl Mesrobian


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Post  Posted 15 Mar 2016 8:41 pm    
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Cartwright Thompson wrote:
I think that guitar belongs to forum member Mark Shuda. If you can avoid eBay, you might get it for less. Not having to pay eBay and PayPal fees will knock off a few bucks...


12.9% Winking

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Herb Steiner


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Post  Posted 15 Mar 2016 9:44 pm    
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And when it sells, Forumites will scratch their heads and say "but... but... but... it just isn't WORTH IT!!! Mad

Laughing

By definition, the winner of an auction was willing to pay more than anyone else for the item. But it is also a signal, to those who might have been on the fence about the item, that someone else WAS willing to pay that much, the definition of "worth" being "what someone is willing to pay for an item."

The message being that if someone else thinks it's worth it, some others will think it's okay to pay that much for it.

This is how the values of vintage or unique instruments inflate.

No one wanted Bigsby guitars until Paul Warnik paid Bobbe Seymour a "ridiculous" price for Pee Wee Whitewing's first Bigsby. A price that now would be considered ridiculous for its affordability if you could even find one at that price.

Other examples: Emmons 1964-65 D-10s, Franklin anythings.

When I read comments like "it isn't worth it," I add the unspoken phrase "to me" and translate it as "its price is more money than I am personally willing or able to part with." Sometimes I agree with that opinion, oftentimes not because I might see upside in an instrument's future value.

And in twenty years (or less) it will be "I wish I had all the (fill in blank) guitars I could have had for (fill in price here)."

Retrospection is so entertaining. Wink
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Chris Sattler

 

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Post  Posted 16 Mar 2016 3:46 am    
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Be careful of what you say here. This could be another one of Mike Cass' experiments.

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=295331&highlight=
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 16 Mar 2016 4:14 am    
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No unless Mike moved
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Kevin Mincke


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Post  Posted 16 Mar 2016 7:35 am    
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He's a forum member gentlemen.....😉
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Carl Mesrobian


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Post  Posted 16 Mar 2016 8:33 am    
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Herb Steiner wrote:
And when it sells, Forumites will scratch their heads and say "but... but... but... it just isn't WORTH IT!!! Mad

Laughing

By definition, the winner of an auction was willing to pay more than anyone else for the item. But it is also a signal, to those who might have been on the fence about the item, that someone else WAS willing to pay that much, the definition of "worth" being "what someone is willing to pay for an item."

The message being that if someone else thinks it's worth it, some others will think it's okay to pay that much for it.

This is how the values of vintage or unique instruments inflate.

No one wanted Bigsby guitars until Paul Warnik paid Bobbe Seymour a "ridiculous" price for Pee Wee Whitewing's first Bigsby. A price that now would be considered ridiculous for its affordability if you could even find one at that price.

Other examples: Emmons 1964-65 D-10s, Franklin anythings.

When I read comments like "it isn't worth it," I add the unspoken phrase "to me" and translate it as "its price is more money than I am personally willing or able to part with." Sometimes I agree with that opinion, oftentimes not because I might see upside in an instrument's future value.

And in twenty years (or less) it will be "I wish I had all the (fill in blank) guitars I could have had for (fill in price here)."

Retrospection is so entertaining. Wink


Like my '68 Les Paul I sold in the early 70's for $300 because I needed money Smile

But will the "Golden Era" for push pulls spread in time, say to a 10 year spread (64-73) ? Wait and see..

Also, if you have to go a little out of your way and bag that $3k vacation this year so you have extra money for a killer tone machine that you'll have forever, and your family will remember you as "buying that stupid guitar instead of going on vacation", why not splurge and take the heat for a while?

Have you ever waited for an instrument to be available? One becomes available, you pass on it, and you wait for another, while the "sucker" who bought that other one is having a blast with it? You keep hunting for one, while the other guy is having his dinner with his "catch".

The average credit card debt is, I believe, around $3k/month. Hunker down, save some dough, and buy a $4k-$5k guitar. It will certainly hold its value more than your smart phone or other electronic toys you might have. I just bought a "new" Motorola Raz'r with battery and charger for $20 - my other Raz'r died after 7-8 yrs. Laughing
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 16 Mar 2016 10:13 am    
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Carl Mesrobian wrote:


The average credit card debt is, I believe, around $3k/month.

wow...not in my world. but i suppose it is to alot of fools.
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Carl Mesrobian


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Post  Posted 16 Mar 2016 10:50 am    
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Not in my world either, which is why a $3k guitar every once in a while doesn't kill me.
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