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Topic: (C6) Extra pullrod on A-Ab lever maybe? |
Bengt Erlandsen
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Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 24 Jun 2004 3:23 am |
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I was tryin to find a particular voicing without installing more pedals/levers on my C6 5p+4k when this solution surfaced.
Is the 10th string very often played when the 4th string is being lowered to Ab or can I lower the low C-string to B at the same
time witout causing conflict between other voicings?. Have I missed something?
Setup showing "New" lever and P6
LKL P6
D
E F
C
A Ab
G
E Eb
C
A
F
C B
By using these two together one has the voicing I was looking for on strings 10 9 8 6 4. F7#9 w a b5 in the bass. This is one very useful voicing to play around with since alternating between playing either 9 string or 10string in the voicing produces two different chords(function as)
Is there some other combinations that will be sacrifised by doing this? Please share your experiences with using the 10 string and 4th string to Ab at the same time.
Bengt Erlandsen
[This message was edited by Bengt Erlandsen on 24 June 2004 at 04:24 AM.] |
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Jeff Lampert
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Posted 24 Jun 2004 7:17 am
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Bengt, the easiest way to get the b5 in the bass is with pedal 6. On the open fret, playing strings 1,4,6,9, you have the notes D,A,D#,F, which forms a B7#9b5, with the b5 (F) in the bass. This assumes that string 1 is a D note.
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Bengt Erlandsen
From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 24 Jun 2004 12:13 pm
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You are right about that but it only solves half of my intetion.
The F Eb A D voicing looks/sounds to me as a F13
Edited for correct information.
What I want at the same time is a low B note so I can change to a B A Eb Ab voicing (B13) without moving the bar.
The way the lever works w P6 is that I have F A Eb Ab (F7#9) and B A Eb Ab (B13) available at the same time.
Intention is to do something like this.
Engage lever to lower 4str A-Ab andd 10 C-B while pressing P6 for the whole thing.
Note: the b after each fretted note means lower a half tone.
G E7#9 A13 D7#9 G13
D---------------------------------
E---------------------------------
C---------------------------------
A----------11b----10b----9b----8b-
G---------------------------------
E----------11b----10b----9b----8b-
C---------------------------------
A----------11-----10-----9-----8--
F-------12-11---------10-9--------
C----8b-------11b-10b-------9b-8b-
Question is if the lower on the 10string will interfere with other uses for the 4th string A-Ab lower.
Bengt
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Jeff Lampert
From:
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Posted 24 Jun 2004 12:52 pm
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| I have F A Eb D (F7#9) and B A Eb D (B13) available at the same time. |
You have the chord names backwards. They are F13 and B7#9, and you can play the F13 at the open fret with pedal 6, and the B7#9 at the 2nd fret with pedal 8 ("boo-wah" pedal), strings 3,5,7,10. Basically to change the root from F to B, you have to move up two frets and pick the D,A,and D#(Eb) notes on different strings. If you want them both at the same fret, you might consider lowering the 9th string from F to Eb on pedal 8, if you don't use the F to E pull. That way you can have both the low F and B notes available at fret 2 at the same time, if that's what you need. If you need the F to E pull on pedal 8, then I guess you have to get the B note some other way, like you're suggesting.
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Jeff Lampert
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queens, new york city
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Posted 24 Jun 2004 12:54 pm
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And yes, lowering string 10 at the same time you lower string 4 can definitely interfere if you rely on string 10 a lot (I do). If you don't rely on string 10 a lot, then that's another matter.
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Bengt Erlandsen
From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 24 Jun 2004 1:21 pm
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Thanks for pointing out my error. I edited my previous post to include the right notes for the F7#9 and B13. Lowering the 9th string to Eb together w P8 would give me the same option in another position but then I would need an extra LKV which I don't have.
I do use the 10 string for several purposes but can't come to think of times where I use the low C together w the A-Ab on the 4th string.
Bengt |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 24 Jun 2004 1:26 pm
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| ditto Jeff |
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Bengt Erlandsen
From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 24 Jun 2004 1:58 pm
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Solution to one problem caused another. Found why I need the low C when using the A-Ab lever. A vertical lever or two would be better for what I had in mind.
Not so good idea to put the C-B on the same lever as A-Ab.
Thanks.
Bengt[This message was edited by Bengt Erlandsen on 24 June 2004 at 10:48 PM.] |
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