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Topic: Presets or Tuning Chart? |
Jeremy Threlfall
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now in Western Australia
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Posted 1 Mar 2022 2:56 pm |
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I originally posted something like this in the Peterson thread below, but figured it was rudely off-topic, so thought id make a separate discussion
i tune up Extra Terrestrial when I'm out and about, with randomly adjusted thirds
At home, i keep my Anapeg U10 - which i never take out - in Noels 'extreme' temperament (E raises on the F lever 25 cents flat). its a really sweet set-up across all tonics as long as i play my A+F inversions about a third the way past the fret marker
i have never bothered loading that as a preset into my Peterson, but just use the chart (which Ive memorised) and the needle on my Boss TU-12x. I figure i don't need to tune quickly or in dodgy light. And it also reinforces in my mind exactly what it is that im putting on the guitar so i remember to play my A+F inversions right!
is that the only reason to use presets (to tune up quickly in dodgy light) or am i missing something fabulous here?
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Tucker Jackson
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 2 Mar 2022 9:11 am
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I don't see any reason to change what you're doing.
I like to see those offsets on the meter. It makes me a little nervous to use a system where the offsets are programmed and I can't see what's going on behind the scenes. Also, in my system, there are 4 F#s on the guitar, and having just two Peterson-type choices (one for open strings, one for pedals/knees) wouldn't cover it since they are mostly used against different string groupings, so they are custom-tuned accordingly.
It's great to write a chart for each guitar that takes its unique cabinet drop and raise into account. And it's great to derive that chart by ear because you automatically account for raise/drop in the process.
It's not required, but it's still useful to understand why each offset is set the way it is. That makes it super easy because you don't really "memorize" the chart. It just becomes simple logic (and it really is simple if you know a few principles).
FYI, that F lever may seem extreme, but it's perfectly in tune in the JI system (which is what you get if you tune by ear). Assuming you start with open E at +0 and the Anapeg has 1 cent of cabinet drop... if you walk through and tune by ear, open E position, then AB pedals, then the F lever, it will land that F note on -25. Congrats on having a good ear because, per the laws of physics, you found the absolute sweetest pitch. And yes, you do have to roll the bar a bit to the right of the fret line to intonate A+F. Same goes for everyone who doesn't tune all strings and pedals straight up to 0. |
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Jeremy Threlfall
From:
now in Western Australia
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 4 Mar 2022 2:25 am
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A third great mind here!
On my uni there are several notes that exist in two versions. I only use a meter to tune my E to 330; after that I tune by ear.
Both my steels hold their tuning well and if I need to check anything the headphone amp on my Telonics is loud!
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