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Topic: Volume Pedal on a Knee Lever? |
Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 2 Jan 2016 11:44 am |
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| Has anyone thought of putting the volume pedal on a knee lever? |
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Scott Duckworth
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Etowah, TN Western Foothills of the Smokies
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Posted 2 Jan 2016 12:22 pm
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Been done on a pedal...
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 2 Jan 2016 1:11 pm
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No.
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 2 Jan 2016 1:29 pm
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| Knees too busy making changes... |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 2 Jan 2016 4:52 pm
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I don't think there would be enough control of a lever to make subtle changes in volume/sustain to make it viable.
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Erik Alderink
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Ann Arbor Michigan, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2016 7:47 am
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| Farfisa organs had a volume / tone control on a knee lever. Worked fine in that context. Only downside is that a knee lever volume control would likely have to be spring loaded, meaning you cannot set and forget like a traditional pedal. |
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Craig Baker
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Eatonton, Georgia, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 3 Jan 2016 10:44 am
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Sewing machines often use a knee-operated motor speed control. It might work for volume. . . if you had a "Singer" in the band
Craig
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 3 Jan 2016 3:30 pm
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| I have a friend who had surgery on his foot that caused his ankle not to move from side to side anymore. He's had to alter his pedal setup where he couldn't use his volume pedal anymore. Telonics, at the Dallas show, let him try a device that did the volume with a sensor on his baseball cap. He just nods his head to change the volume. |
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Dave Beaty
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Mesa, Arizona, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2016 5:57 pm Levers, pedals, elbows, wrists, hats, everywhere!
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In the years since we designed a version of the Telonics FP-100 Multi-Taper volume pedal which can function with a tiny remote sensor unit, we have assisted people having various physical challenges in fitting volume control (and sometimes effect level control) in almost every conceivable location - including levers.
One gentleman, who was missing the lower portion of one leg just behind the knee, fitted the cushion of his Pac-seat with a slide system on bearings, such that as he pushed his body forward and back, it caused the remote sensor to tilt, which in turn controlled his volume. Voila! No hands, feet, knees, wrists, elbows, head movement, etc needed!
We have seen many other very ingenious and inventive applications of this technology to control both volume and level of effects.
It would seem that with imagination and a little ingenuity, a person can overcome just about any such adversity.
We offer advice and assistance to anyone in need at no charge, we are glad to help out in any way we can.
Dave and the Telonics engineering team. |
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Jeff Metz Jr.
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York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 6 Jan 2016 5:45 pm
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Dave Beaty,
How precise and expressive is this Telonics sensor.
It would open up a whole world of new possibilities as far as right leg Vertical knee levers and 2 right knee rights etc.
One wouldn't have to worry about the volume pedal.
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Dave Beaty
From:
Mesa, Arizona, USA
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Posted 6 Jan 2016 8:07 pm Miniature remote sensor
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Jeff,
It is as precise as actually using the pedal itself.
If you will email me at dave@telonics.com
I will dig out an old data manual and send it to you.
In operation, you can set the actual pedal anywhere on the floor and not even touch it, you just move the remove sensor and the electronics in the pedal responds to it. Accordingly, you can use all of the tapers (both unity and gain tapers), the minimum ON function, input impedance control, etc., etc, just as if you were using the pedal itself. It's been around a long time, but most people don't really get the concept. There have been threads on the Forum about and photos as well in the past. |
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Carl Mesrobian
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Salem, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 6 Jan 2016 9:15 pm
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| Craig Baker wrote: |
Sewing machines often use a knee-operated motor speed control. It might work for volume. . . if you had a "Singer" in the band
Craig |
That comment has me in stitches..
Most stitchers have a knee for the presser foot and a pedal for the motor or clutch, if an industrial machine - they are always out of tune, though  Don't ask me how I know all this..
A knee lever for volume would leave a foot free, but it makes more sense for the lever to be a left or right, vs vertical, unless one is more coordinated than a ballerina.. if pressing a pedal and raising vertical lever at once, one would have to have the heel lifted to raise the knee and tip toe press the pedal - your calves would become too enormous for long legged pants!!
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 6 Jan 2016 11:57 pm Re: Miniature remote sensor
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Jeff,
It is as precise as actually using the pedal itself.
If you will email me at dave@telonics.com
I will dig out an old data manual and send it to you.
In operation, you can set the actual pedal anywhere on the floor and not even touch it, you just move the remove sensor and the electronics in the pedal responds to it. Accordingly, you can use all of the tapers (both unity and gain tapers), the minimum ON function, input impedance control, etc., etc, just as if you were using the pedal itself. It's been around a long time, but most people don't really get the concept. There have been threads on the Forum about and photos as well in the past. |
Not a good idea for me. The amount that I move my head around looking at the ladies, my volume would be all over the map. 
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 7 Jan 2016 4:55 am
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This idea would work best on a keyless 14-string guitar.
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
Over there
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Posted 7 Jan 2016 6:55 pm
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| What about we leave tihe volume pedal where it is? If you've got a knee with enough free time to operate a volume control, then find a useful change. |
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Ken Byng
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Southampton, England
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Posted 8 Jan 2016 8:44 am
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A steel player from the UK called Dave Nash fitted a volume control to a knee lever on his guitar over 30 years ago. He has been using it like that ever since. He also incorporated a Boss tuner into the cabinet of his guitar too. Some people are radical thinkers.
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Bill Dobkins
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Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2016 2:41 pm
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Do a search and find my on board VP.
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Gerald Shaw
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2016 3:21 pm
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I can understand that having the volume control on a lever would help a person with a disability, but for other folks, I don't see an advantage. If I have say my volume on a left knee lever, I'd think my whole left leg -foot and knee, would be committed to controlling the volume. If I had LKR dedicated to volume, I couldn't use LKL at all (unless I abandon the volume control and move my knee off of LKR.
With a volume pedal, You have the ability to control volume while using both Left knee levers. I can see where using something other than your hands and feet to control volume would free up your right foot for more pedals (so you can double foot}, but I'm not seeing how using a lever would be advantageous. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 8 Jan 2016 6:19 pm
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| Jeff Metz Jr. wrote: |
It would open up a whole world of new possibilities as far as right leg Vertical knee levers and 2 right knee rights etc.
One wouldn't have to worry about the volume pedal. |
True...but IMHO, having more changes or more strings doesn't necessarily make one a better player. In fact, I think the continuous "adding" we're doing to the instrument has already doomed it's future. Players are continually looking at their instruments shortcomings, instead of their own.  |
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Micky Byrne
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United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 14 Jan 2016 5:21 am Re: Volume Pedal on a Knee Lever?
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Alan....Dave Nash in the Southampton area who makes his own steels had a volume pedal rigged up to an ordinary pedal "Pull" ... worked well 
Micky "scars" Byrne .. U.K. |
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