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Topic: C6th Question |
Larry Harlan
From:
Hydro, Oklahoma
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Posted 26 Apr 2004 6:03 pm |
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| Is there anyone out there that plays the C6th tuning for ALL of your steel playing regardless of the genre or venue? That is to say, the C6th is "your" universal tuning for everything. If so, I'd like to talk to you on here, or by e-mail, or on the phone and what your compedent is. Best regards, |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2004 10:13 pm
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| Al Vescovo has played only C6 for many years. |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2004 6:39 am
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While he does play E9th occassionaly, Jack Hearn would reach for C6 hands down (no pun intended  ), on just about any tune you could think of. He loves this neck like few I have ever seen.
And what about Maurice on his Bb6 universal? There is nothing he can't play on that "6th" tuning. And play it like the notes came out of heaven.
Course the king was Curly Chalker. I feel certain if he had his "druthers", all songs belonged on C6. 
May Jesus richly bless Jack, Reece, Curly and all of you,
carl |
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Jim Saunders
From:
Houston, Texas, U.S.A.
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Posted 30 Apr 2004 1:10 pm
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| Herb Remington plays A6th only on his S10. This tuning is simply C6 lowered. |
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Don McClellan
From:
California/Thailand
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Posted 4 May 2004 1:07 pm
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I use the C6th (B6th) for everything. What's your question? Can it be done? Sure, if you want to. But you can't squeeze enough hillbilly gimmic out of it to please most players.You can, however, get more than enough out of it to please most of the general public. IIf you want to.
I recently added 3 pedals to my single neck B6th. The 3 new pedals treat the B triad just like the 3 E9 pedals treat the E triad on the E9 neck. Also, my B to C and B to Bb knee levers do the same thing the E to F and E to Eb do for the E9. This works well and gives me a bunch of good hillbilly gimmic to goof off with. But you can get by with out it if you try. Don |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 4 May 2004 1:55 pm
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"hillbilly gimmic"????
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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande
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John McGann
From:
Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 5 May 2004 7:49 am
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Larry, check with our Resident Goldmine of Steel Info, Carl Dixon, on this thread, both the U12 and C6 setups:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/007698.html
You can't have everything, but this looks like it has almost everything! A lot of food for thought and fantasy there.
Joaquin Murphey refered to the pedal steel E9 tuning as a "gimmick" tuning; but I think he used an F#9 tuning (non pedal) at some point, and later (late 60's?) began to play some C6 with pedals- you can use the Forum search function to find some info on that.
I think both tunings are beautiful and have their particular strengths and distinctive personalities...
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Ernie Pollock
From:
Mt Savage, Md USA
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Posted 6 May 2004 5:06 am
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I like to play backup on lots of different songs on the B6th tuning, you can do country stuff on that tuning. The more you mess around with it they better you'll get at the 6th tunings, I think I like that tuning [6th] better than E9th, which is so 'ho hum' all the time. 6th tunings are great!!
Ernie http://www.hereintown.net/~shobud75/stock.htm
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 6 May 2004 9:00 am
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The problem with C6th as a basis for a universal tuning is that the "other side" would be F9 with a high A note. Tuning a note to A and raising it to Bb is an invitation to disaster. That's why the 6th-based universals are all tuned down from C6 to B6 or Bb6.
Joe Murray's B6th Universal is typical of this school of thought. The first two pedals are E9th pedals, used when the D# strings are raised to E by RKR.
Similarly, David Wright's Bb6th Universal shifts into an Eb tuning when he raises his D strings to Eb on RKL, and his leftmost pedals mimick the standard E9th pedals. Junior Knight and Reece Anderson also play Bb6 Universals.
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Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (C6add9),
Sierra Laptop 8 (E6add9), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6),
Roland Handsonic, Line 6 Variax[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 06 May 2004 at 10:02 AM.] |
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