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Jeff Metz Jr.


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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2015 12:24 pm    
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I'm doing a rebuild and want a certain look for the undercarriage. I'm looking for black anodized compression springs for raise rods. Also looking for stainless snap rings. Has anybody ever come across these? What's the correct spring size needed?
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2015 1:09 pm    
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A certain "look"...for the springs? Are you going to play it upside-down? Laughing
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Bud Angelotti


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Larryville, NJ, USA
Post  Posted 21 Dec 2015 1:49 pm    
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Jeff - Do yourself a favor & have it set up by someone who really knows what they are doing. I say this in all humility. Take it to someone like Cass that will do it right & show you how it works. The time learning the fine points of setting up you steel would be better off playing the darn thing. It's a P/P right?
Once it's set up properly it will last a long time.
I spent a lot of time myself, trying to teach myself how to adjust my P/P, then, I brought it to Scotty's on a trip thru St. Louie & Mr. Don Curtis, may he RIP, set it up and allowed my to stand over his shoulder and ask silly questions. That was about 20 years ago & ever since, I've been able to troubleshoot some minor things. I got an invaluable education that day & most humbly advise you to do the same.
Cheers & happy holidays to you!!
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2015 3:18 pm    
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that would be cool.

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Jeff Metz Jr.


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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2015 4:01 pm    
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Sorry guys. Guess i should know better than to take pride in my guitar and its mechanics. I suppose Mike cass and Lynn Stafford as well as billy Knowles use nice shiny stainless in Leu of plain steel because its absolutely necessary. It's hard to believe you guys have any time at all to play with all the time spent trolling on the forum telling others how things should be done.
I remember asking for help acquiring certain parts, not permission to work on my guitar.
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Jerry Roller


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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 21 Dec 2015 5:37 pm    
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Jeff, I don't recall seeing the stainless "C" clips but I have a supply of he compression springs. They are not black but sort of a dark copper. The size of the springs is .032 gauge 7/32 OD. Let me know if you want some.
Jerry
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 21 Dec 2015 7:12 pm    
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Anodizing is done to aluminum. I wouldn't trust Al springs.
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Jerry Roller


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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2015 8:01 pm    
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Lane, the springs are made of piano wire. I don't know what gives them the dark finish.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2015 8:06 pm    
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Sorry Jeff...I apologize. Embarassed I should have known better than to try an inject a litle humor instead of a stone-serious scientific-type answer. You could send the springs out to a plating house for black oxide or black zinc plating, either will make them black. For something you could do yourself, you could try a cold-bluing solution (gun bluing) on the springs you have. Depending on what steel alloy they're made of, they'll turn dark blue or black, provided they're properly cleaned, first. The easiest thing, though, would be to simply spray paint them. (I have a special method I use myself to get flawless paint finishes on small parts - PM me if you're interested). In addition, most large spring manufacturers (Century, Springfast, etc.) can supply springs with a black oxide finish, but you'll have to know specific engineering data (rate, load, wire-size, and decimal inner/outer diameter and length) to order them.

Good luck.
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