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Topic: Suggestions for springloaded half-stopper? |
Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 21 Dec 2015 11:39 am |
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Back in -88 I figured out a 10 string tuning that suited me better than the standard E9 tuning. Works fine on my old Dekley, but I keep that PSG in Norway and miss that tuning when I'm on vacation in the USA. Traveling with a heavy Dekley isn't an option.
As I am in the process of re-rodding another Dekley (in the US) to take on my own Extended E tuning...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/var/s10tt-10.html
...I am looking for ideas for how best to replace the E-strings half/full note raise (and lowers) that I use a vertical lever for on my old "Twin Tuned Extended E" steel, with springloaded half-note stoppers.
Regular "feel-stops" are useless - too weak - on levers that raise/lower 3 strings simultaneously, so I am looking for ideas how to incorporate "something" stronger and more precise as half-stoppers for the E-string levers this time. Don't care what it is as long as it works 
Any ideas are welcome. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 21 Dec 2015 11:47 am
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Why not use a beefier spring on a Bud or MSA stop? I bet a valve spring would be plenty stout.
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 21 Dec 2015 6:06 pm
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| Lane, I have looked at those, but as I don't want to attach mechanic parts that will have to take the kind of "punishment" I'll expose them to to the rather thin soundboard on a Dekley, they are not well suited. |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 21 Dec 2015 10:20 pm
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Many years ago I made a half-stop which was a ball going into an indent.
It worked, but not as good as I would have liked, so I took it off.
In hindsight, I'm sure I could have tweaked it a bit to make it more acceptable, but I just didn't have the time back then. |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 21 Dec 2015 11:11 pm
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Richard, the WBS RealStop© works that way, me thinks. Checked it out years ago, and it seemed to be superior to other "feel-stop" mechanisms I have looked at. Should work fine for its intended single-string use, but easy to get "change-jumping on the notch" when adjusting it for the much harder three string raise/lower levers I need one for.
I am looking for something that works more like the old spring-loaded half-stops, but with a more precise half-stop feel, adjustable tension, and mountable on the backframe of a Dekley. Just haven't found a "gismo" I can "turn around" to make it fit the bill ... yet.
Off to HomeDepot again... |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 22 Dec 2015 3:33 am
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| My Franklin uses both the Sho-Bud/Emmons style spring loading and the 9th string lower as the feel stop for the 2nd string. |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 22 Dec 2015 9:33 pm
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Found "something" that seems to be close enough for comfort...
...to "lock down" the half-stops I need - once modified.
Note: they will go in as half-stops on the "E" string levers, not on the pull-rods. |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 23 Dec 2015 3:27 am
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| That's pretty ingenious, Georg. I hope you'll post a pic of it installed, for those of us lacking sufficient imagination about the application. |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 24 Dec 2015 9:47 am
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Well Charlie, my imagination may play tricks on me, but I am pretty sure the basic idea is on target. Couldn't find suitable hardware in the local stores, so I have ordered some on Amazon that I hope aren't too far off.
The good thing about those spring-loaded bolts is that they can be arranged - modified - to work with "push" or "pull", and that they do not have to be mounted where the half-stop action is needed. Coupling those bolts to regular (pull)rods at either end makes them pretty flexible when it comes to mounting, and my Dekley has a pretty solid backframe to hold such items where they won't get in the way of something else. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 24 Dec 2015 10:14 am
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| all my half-stops consist of a spring on the rod with a threaded wheel which can tighten or loosen the tension to whatever you like. |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 24 Dec 2015 10:42 am
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| all my half-stops consist of a spring on the rod with a threaded wheel which can tighten or loosen the tension to whatever you like. |
Those are fine for single strings/rods, but I need "heavier" versions for handling 3 strings/rods at once directly on the levers.
(I am hard on the levers ... have had to weld/strengten all four levers on my oldest Dekley after I bent them  ) |
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