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Bobby Lee
From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2004 4:54 pm
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In another topic, I suggested renaming the lever that lowers the fifth string of the E9th half a step, in honor of Jeff Newman. Winnie Winston, another of my steel heroes, responded that we should instead rename the standard E9/B6 copedent the "Newman Universal".
It's a great idea, in my opinion, but I don't play the tuning. I've opened this new topic for further discussion because my "Jeff Lever" topic is already on its second page and shows signs of topic drift.
What do you all think of calling the E9/B6 tuning the "Newman Universal" as a lasting tribute to the greatest pedal steel teacher of our time?
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Jody Carver
From: KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 18 Apr 2004 5:01 pm
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Winnie mentioned this idea to me just the other day. I think it would be a fine idea and a tribute to a fine musician and instructor. |
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C Dixon
From: Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2004 5:17 pm
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I third the motion,
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Chuck Martin
From: Clifton, Virginia
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Posted 18 Apr 2004 5:41 pm
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I think that's a more fitting tribute to Jeff. If you haven't already, have a listen to Jeff's rendition of "Life's Railway to Heaven" at the beginning of his E9/B6 Video and you'll understand how well he understood this tuning and his honest belief in it as a replacement for D-10 guitars. The "X" (or "J") lever was just one lever. Now having a whole tuning named after him, that's something that will be remembered. What steel player doesn't know what an Emmons or Day setup is? I think the "Newman Universal" will do quite nicely and be less controversial than trying to gain acceptance of naming an existing knee lever after him. [This message was edited by Chuck Martin on 18 April 2004 at 06:42 PM.] |
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 18 Apr 2004 6:17 pm
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That would be a fine tribute to Jeff, he pretty much standardised the basic E9th/B6th setup with a well thought out, yet simple setup which enabled anyone to play just about any type of music they could imagine on a Pedal steel guitar - all one neck.
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William Peters
From: Effort, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2004 6:39 pm
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Where is Jeff's uni copedent?
Bill
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Bob Tuttle
From: Republic, MO 65738
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Posted 18 Apr 2004 7:17 pm
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Jeff's tuning and set-up are on the Carter website under "Road Players". |
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David Doggett
From: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 18 Apr 2004 7:37 pm
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Well, in previous threads we seem to have established that the common E9/B6 Universal tuning with the E lower lever converting the lower 9 strings to a B6 that parallels the C6 neck, and with the low D on another lever, was Jeff's innovation. It was the version of the universal that "stuck." So it seems to be his tuning whether we call it that or not. So let's do. |
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Harry Williams
From: Duncan, Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
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Posted 18 Apr 2004 9:03 pm
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I think it's a great idea. Up to this point I've been referring to my instrument as a "U-12, Newman set-up" - so let's just shorten that to the "Newman Universal" . I've been playing for one year and am already addicted - thanks Jeff...
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Billy Woo
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2004 9:19 am
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Bob, I also agree that it's a great idea and you know I play a Zum U-12 with a new one on the way so from hereon it's 'Newman Universal' tuning for me..'betcha Jeff is looking down and smiling right about now.
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Joey Ace
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 19 Apr 2004 9:29 am
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An excellent idea. Way better than a lever.
Add my name to the petition. We'll forward it to the SGSA.
(Steel Guitar Standards Association)
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2004 9:49 am
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Quote: |
Add my name to the petition. We'll forward it to the SGSA. (Steel Guitar Standards Association) |
An oxymoron if I ever heard one! |
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Travis Bernhardt
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 19 Apr 2004 10:10 am
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I ninth the motion.
-Travis |
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Len Amaral
From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 19 Apr 2004 10:40 am
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Bravo!
Also, it was jeff Newmans video regarding the universal tuning that influenced me to play the 12 string instead of getting a D-10 guitar. My pedal setup is the same with a few extra knee levers. |
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Perry Hansen
From: Bismarck, N.D.
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Posted 19 Apr 2004 12:21 pm
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You have my yes vote. |
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Graham Griffith
From: Tempe, N.S.W., Australia
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Posted 19 Apr 2004 12:27 pm
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It would make sense & is a nice tribute.
Graham |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 19 Apr 2004 3:28 pm
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I have 2 questions.
1- Did Jeff invent the E9/B6 universal? I believe Reece invented the Bb6.
2- Did Jeff use an Emmons or Day setup for his E9 pedals?
I'm in favor of naming the tuning after him, but I think Jeff's contribution was so enormous that calling the E9/B6 tuning the Newman tuning doesn't even begin to cover how much we all owe him. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2004 5:17 pm
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1) No.
2) Jeff played Day, but he taught both. |
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Ad Kersten
From: Beek en Donk, The Netherlands
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Posted 20 Apr 2004 1:21 pm
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Having bought my Zum U12 from Jeff with the Day set up, how can I be against this excellent proposal?
I am in for it!
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Larry Lorows
From: Zephyrhills,Florida, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2004 5:48 pm
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I'm all for naming the U12 tuning after Jeff. If it wasn't for him, I'd still be trying to figure out the fifth pedal. His universal course is what got me going on C6th. The intros he used for San Antonio Rose, are ones I'm still using for a bunch of swing songs. Larry Lorows
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