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kbdrost


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Prospect Heights, IL
Post  Posted 15 Apr 2004 1:56 pm    
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Anybody got a suggestion for this problem with my E9th?

I have a Sho-Bud Pro III. (wide pedals, teardrop levers, single raise & lower, except on 4&5, if that makes a difference) Everything works perfectly, except when I try to do a full tone lower on the 2nd string while I am raising the 5th string (either A or C pedal). The 2nd string lowers a little sharp (and tell me that doesn't sound putrid while you've got another string ringing that's supposed to have the same tone!!)

If I lower the 2nd string first, and then pull the 5th string, it's perfect. But if I engage the 5th string first, and then lower the 2nd, it won't go all the way. Whasssup?

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Ken Drost
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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 15 Apr 2004 3:50 pm    
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Yes I know this problem.....and have run into it with several different Shobud changers....and there were several different reasons why this was happening.
So be patient and check out a few things.
First off...If the rods are not pulling in a straight line; that could be a prob. If this is happening when your engaging "A and B" pedals first; then it's most likely the "B" pedal 3rd string finger that is binding with the second string finger. If it is indeed JUST the "A" pedal 5th string engaged and then you try to lower the 2nd string and it won't lower all the way...>then that's a whole nother prob.
But I'm pretty sure it's just the 3rd string finger that is engaged and then trying to lower the 2nd string; is inhibiting it??
So you have to look for the rod on the 3rd string "B" pedal and make sure it's pulling in line and not binding the inside of the finger against the 2nd string finger. Also if there is a raise spring on the 2nd string finger;>Unhook it from the Bracket that is mounted on the bottom of the Guitar.
Also make sure the 2nd string knee lever puller(Bell Crank) is not touching the 3rd string raise rod. Also you may try running some lighter fluid(the cigarette lighter kind) down through the top of the fingers; let dry...then run a bead or two of 3&1 oil down through the fingers and work it> as they may also have some crud or dirt specks in the sleeves between the raise and lower section of the finger...and that will be a prob.
Ok check those things out first and yell back....>there is MORE..ha.
Ricky
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kbdrost


From:
Prospect Heights, IL
Post  Posted 15 Apr 2004 5:56 pm    
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Thanks, Ricky,

I KNEW you'd respond to this post. I should have contacted you directly. Yes, I generally engage the B pedal whenever I hit the A or the C. Just human nature, I guess. But I think there are times when I've only engaged the B and not had a problem. Anyway, I'll try your suggestions and report back.

Thanks, again.

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Ken Drost
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kbdrost


From:
Prospect Heights, IL
Post  Posted 16 Apr 2004 6:37 am    
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Yeah, Ricky, you're a genius, all right. It is the 3rd string that's causing the problem. The change works fine if you use just the A or C pedal. Looks like it's binding inside the changer. I can see the spring for the 2d string move when the B pedal is depressed. I haven't had time to run through the protocol you described. I'll try it this weekend. If it's OK with you, I'll just email you direct.

bOb, you can close this thread. I've discovered the problem, I just gotta figure out how to fix it.

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Ken Drost
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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 16 Apr 2004 8:49 am    
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Yes Ken; email me anytime....No worries.
Ricky
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