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Topic: playing direct into PA? Old topic revisited |
Don Hinkle
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Springfield Illinois, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2015 6:59 pm |
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Ive looked at this before in the past and I now have a reason to revisit.
I need to do some "triple' duty gigs where the other musicians bring their own Bose L2 systems.
I also own a Bose L2 and will be bringing it but can't find a sound that I can live with going;
Pedal steel - volume pedal - Bose T1 mixer - Bose L2 system
Has anyone found a preamp that can be connected directly to a PA, namely my bose system?
Thanks for all help!
Don
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2015 9:55 pm
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Any of the Roland Cubes would work fine... I'd say the Pod-type things would do the job too. I've run my Mobile Cube into my GigRac 600 with 2x JBL 12" monitors... that is a killer rig. You really just need a decent preamp with steel-guitar-friendly EQ... and a little compression wouldn't hurt.
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Paul Sutherland
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Placerville, California
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Posted 7 Dec 2015 12:45 am
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Sarno Octal V8 or Revelation. Either would be excellent.
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Jeff Mead
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London, England
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Posted 7 Dec 2015 2:26 am
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Pretty much any multi-FX unit that has amp simulation built in will work or one of those stand alone amp simulator boxes like the Sansamp. Joyo make some really cheap ones that get good reviews.
A lot of people use these pedals in front of a guitar amp and then wonder why they don't like the sound but they are actually designed to be used with a "hi-fi" PA amp or straight into a recording device.
I'd add another thumbs up to the Line 6 POD suggestion. |
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Dom Franco
From:
Beaverton, OR, 97007
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Posted 7 Dec 2015 6:35 pm
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I have tried this many times thru different systems and I am never happy with the result.
PA speakers with their "full range reproduction" and "tweeters" for the high end don't sound pleasing for a steel guitar to my ears.
The direct signal comes out too sterile and harsh IMHO.
Now if you play steel thru an amp and mic it through the PA, to my ears it sounds much better...
Dom
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Alex Cattaneo
From:
Quebec, Canada
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Posted 7 Dec 2015 7:10 pm
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| It's probably way more than you're willing to spend, but the XLR direct out on the Quilter Steelaire works very very well. My sound man was quite impressed with it, and that doesn't happen often. If I'm playing with in-ear monitors, I don't even bother with a cab. |
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Scott Duckworth
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Etowah, TN Western Foothills of the Smokies
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Posted 8 Dec 2015 3:38 am
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I use a Zoom MS-50G into a Behringer mixer, into a Harbinger V2112 power speaker, and love the sound I get.
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John Gould
From:
Houston, TX Now in Cleveland TX
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Posted 8 Dec 2015 10:44 am Digitech RP360
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I have found this to be a great sounding unit for the money. I play Steel, 6 string and Acoustic through the PA with it and after taking some time to tweak it's sounds great. It has software to load on your computer that makes editing a breeze . Tons of different amp models and effects and you can change the order and also several different speaker simulations. They make it with or without expression pedal .
I had used PODS in the past and I think this sounds much better.
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Keith Davidson
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 8 Dec 2015 1:17 pm
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This is what I use:
Hilton pedal out to Tube Pre, out to WET reverb out to mixer.
Works great.
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Chris Walke
From:
St Charles, IL
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Posted 9 Dec 2015 1:00 pm
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I don't have one, haven't played thru one, but I've heard very good things about this one:
http://www.adaamps.com/Products/ada-GCS/GCS.htm
(2 versions, looks like a nice bang for the buck option - around $120 for the GCS-2, $150 for the GCS-3) |
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Craig Schwartz
From:
McHenry IL
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Posted 19 Dec 2015 5:16 pm
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I have 2 methods that work into the L2, having a mixer helps everyone on it,
Straight into mixer with a boss reverb and delay pedal, before the volume pedal use of a freeloader by Sarno, a Beringer monitor on a mic stand from the mixers output, to hear yourself,
the other is a line 6 pod hd alone with the monitor but the left output goes to the mixer on the L2
either sound is very acceptable, the big amps and racks of ages still sound a tad better than this setup, when your fighting room to share , you wont look like a hog, good luck
Note★ The L2 is a beautiful sounding rig for pedal steel , they are amazing once you figure your settings running direct, you can count on the bose doing a great job
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Drew Pierce
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Arkansas, USA
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Posted 20 Dec 2015 5:39 pm
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By "triple duty gigs", do you mean you will be playing three different instruments alternately during the same show? If so, I can't offer any advice as I have no experience doing that. I have played gigs where I alternately played steel and banjo, but I always used completely different setups for each.
For pedal steel live sound reinforcement, I much prefer miking my amp into the board (with a Sennheiser E609 wich I carry with me at all times), to playing directly into the board. Have the sound person give you a flat EQ and your sound in the PA mix should be pretty much the same as your natural amp sound. If it isn't, its their fault.
There are three reasons for setting up this way. First, you get however much steel you and your bandmates want in the monitors. Second, you can cover large venues with way less on-stage volume from your amp. And third....uh,...I can't remember the third reason. Oops.
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Don Hinkle
From:
Springfield Illinois, USA
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Posted 21 Dec 2015 3:53 pm
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I just realized that I didn't specify "triple duty"
Pedal steel
Telecaster
Acoustic with pickup.
I played with a Roland micro cube the other day and actually was quite pleased coming out of my bose setup.
BUT, it was very cumbersome plugging each instrument into the cube when it was its turn and there is now way I'm going to carry 3 of them around.
And I did have to change amp model and settings between instruments... but I am able to get a reasonable sound for each instrument, I just can't switch quickly.
I have a profex 2 that I'm going to play with as well I just purchased a transtube efx that will be here within a few days. I am going to fool with those.
I'm SOOO temped to just buy a revelation preamp!!!
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Chris Walke
From:
St Charles, IL
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Posted 5 Jan 2016 10:19 am
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I used to play 3 instruments at gigs, sometimes into a single amp, sometime direct to board (via a ParaAcoustic DI). I used a Boss pedal, worked great.
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