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Topic: Pickups on a ZUM? |
Ron Sodos
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 12:44 pm |
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| I still have the original Wallace single coil Pup's on my Zum and I am wondering what you guys think. I am not completely happy with the sound. |
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Paul Sutherland
From:
Placerville, California
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 1:33 pm
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Ron: For what it's worth: I briefly put a True Tone single coil into my Emmons push-pull, while the original Emmons PUP was being repaired. The Emmons sounded pretty good with the True Tone, but not the same. I strongly prefer the Emmons single coil PUP in the push-pull.
Also, you may have noticed my thread about putting an Emmons single coil in a Williams. One of the two PUPs that the Emmons replaced was a True Tone single coil.
I'm convinced that all single coils do not sound the same. Try an Emmons. If it doesn't work out, you can probably sell it for what you paid for it.
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Paddy Long
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Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 1:47 pm
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Ron if your looking for a humbucker you should try the Telonics 409 ... I have these on one of my Zum Hybrids and they are a fantastic pickup - my other Zum has TT's so I can compare quite well. The 409's are the best humbucker I have tried in a Zum
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Steve Spitz
From:
New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 7:05 pm Pickups
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| Another vote for the Teleonics 409 here. I had the Truetones, they sounded really good, but the 409s sound better. |
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George Kimery
From:
Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 7:45 pm Pickups on a Zum
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| Has anybody replaced the original single coil pickups in a Zum with the 409's? If so, is there enough of a difference to justify the cost of the Telonics? |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 8:32 pm
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George yes i replaced the original Trutones that Bruce put on my Hybrid when he built it with the 409's and I prefer the Telonics PU's on that guitar. I may change my other Hybrid to 409's as well but currently it still has the TT's
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 29 Sep 2015 10:12 am
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| how much do the 409s cost? |
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Steve Spitz
From:
New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2015 6:07 pm Worth it ?
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George,
I swapped out the Truetones for the 409s.
It was absolutely worth it. The Truetones were very good. The 409s sound fantastic in the Zum.
Chris , I don't recall what I paid, it was a bit more than the average, but worth it.
A pickup swap can be the least expensive investment I can think of that may have a big impact on your overall sound . A cheap thrill when you compare it to some of the things we spend our money on. |
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John De Maille
From:
On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 1 Oct 2015 7:50 pm
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| What happened to all the praise for the Alumitone pickup on a Zum? |
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George Kimery
From:
Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 2 Oct 2015 4:38 am Pickups in a Zum ?
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Thanks for all the responses. Paddy and Steve, my Zum has the original 1982 single coil pickups. I was hoping somebody had replaced the original single coils with a 409, not replacing True Tones. I had a True Tone in an Emmons PP and I thought it had better string separation than the original single coil pickup. Based on my experience with the TT, I would agree that they sound good.
I have always preferred the sound of single coils over humbuckers. But, Steve and Paddy, you both say that the 409's sound great in a Zum, so I am going to try a 409 as soon as I have the money. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 2 Oct 2015 4:40 am
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Isn't that the Tonealigner copy?
I'm getting a Tonealigner put on the C6th neck of my Zum.
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 2 Oct 2015 11:42 am
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| hey george, interestingly enough my zum is an 82. even though i think the emmons pickups sound slightly better on the zum, i put the zums on the old emmons and it sounds really good with them. |
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Jan Viljoen
From:
Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted 2 Oct 2015 9:13 pm
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Hi Guys, more info on the Telonics 409.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=242967
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 3 Oct 2015 7:58 am
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| I find it very hard to beat the sound of a Wallace TruTone. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 5 Oct 2015 9:19 am
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| or, for that matter, the stock pickup on any good quality steel. |
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Drew Pierce
From:
Arkansas, USA
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Posted 5 Oct 2015 3:54 pm
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| or, for that matter, the stock pickup on any good quality steel. |
If I'm not mistaken, Bruce wound the pickups on my '82 Zum. He showed me a contraption he'd made for that purpose using sewing machine parts.
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Rich Upright
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 6 Oct 2015 9:46 pm
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I was doing a gig years ago on my Zum D-10, & the E9 pickup crapped out. I just happened to have a spare PP pickup & soldering iron in my gig bag, so during the break I pulled the strings, swapped the busted Zum pickup with the Emmons PP pickup, & re-strung the guitar. My Zum never sounded better!
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Kevin Raymer
From:
Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2015 8:14 am
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| I was doing a gig years ago on my Zum D-10, & the E9 pickup crapped out. I just happened to have a spare PP pickup & soldering iron in my gig bag, so during the break I pulled the strings, swapped the busted Zum pickup with the Emmons PP pickup, & re-strung the guitar. My Zum never sounded better! |
Fastest soldering iron in the West...
Or East since you show to be in FLA...
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Ron Sodos
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2015 7:38 pm BL 705's
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| A lot of guys are using the 705's. Has anybody tried them on a Zum??? |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 7 Oct 2015 11:29 pm
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They're fabulous on a Zum. Lee Horgan had one that I got to try out.
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Craig A Davidson
From:
Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2015 3:01 pm
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| There was a time when Hughey had Emmons pick-ups in his Zum. |
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John McClung
From:
Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2015 9:40 am
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I can't find the 409 pickup on the Telonics site. Anyone link me to photos, and pricing? Thanks.
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