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John Billings


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Post  Posted 18 Oct 2015 1:38 am    
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http://www.meltingasphalt.com/music-in-human-evolution/
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Georg Sørtun


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Post  Posted 18 Oct 2015 2:02 am    
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Yeah, the making of loud rhythmic noises is (still) favored for intimidating whatever audiences we are up against ... and it definitely works Very Happy
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 18 Oct 2015 3:30 am    
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I don't know; grackles keep talking after they land; they're always talking. So are humans.
So I'd add another questionable fact: only humans are so anthropomorphic as to suggest that only they employ rhythm.

All the theses have to be valid to make a good case in theory; thus I question whether the idea actually is evolutionary.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 18 Oct 2015 6:43 am    
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I think the invention of fire was also one of the most important things for the survival of us.
Though very repetitive it's great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnBdaYKqMUs
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 18 Oct 2015 1:12 pm    
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only humans are so anthropomorphic

Is it me, or is this statement redundant? Confused
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John Billings


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Post  Posted 18 Oct 2015 1:18 pm    
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It's from The Department of Redundancy Department!
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 18 Oct 2015 5:31 pm    
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[quote]...In fact, we seem to have evolved to become more noticeable, more conspicuous. We grew taller, we sang and made noise (the only animal who sings from the ground)...

Say what? I know wolves, coyotes, ground squirrels, and even mice sing. Dozens of others animals that don't fly probably "sing" too! Razz
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 19 Oct 2015 3:39 am    
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Barry Blackwood wrote:
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only humans are so anthropomorphic

Is it me, or is this statement redundant? Confused

Good question from one who has been made redundant (retired).

John B. answers that:
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It's from The Department of Redundancy Department!

And Donny answers the charge:
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Say what? I know wolves, coyotes, ground squirrels, and even mice sing. Dozens of others animals that don't fly probably "sing" too!

I rest my cases. Now leave me alone! I'm trying to be redundant!
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Bo Legg


Post  Posted 23 Oct 2015 7:49 am    
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I’d rather go with the theory that evolution is driven by sex.
Singing is nothing more than a mating call.
How else can you explain that we evolved to “I got the hungry's for your love and I’m waiting in your welfare line” and Pitch correction?
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2015 9:00 am    
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I think you have it right, Bo.

Not only physical but social evolution; why else do we have jobs?
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John Billings


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2015 9:05 am    
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Here ya go Bo;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3284885/Calls-versus-balls-Monkeys-smaller-testicles-roar-loudest-make-shortcomings-attracting-females.html
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David Mason


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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2015 6:41 pm    
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Gorf. Why does so much of this material seem descriptive of the music WORLD, at least the mercenary & competitive segments?

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Confrontational scavenging, also known as power or aggressive scavenging, happens when an animal (or group of animals) comes across a carcass that's in the process of being eaten, whether by the original predator or another scavenger. In this case, a confrontation ensues, and to the victor go the spoils.

- Kinda like the burp that ensued after Elvis ate Big Joe Turner & Hank Williams!

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($)To intimidate competitors with loud sounds. Shouting in unison is clearly the best way to do this, because the result is far louder than any sound an individual human can make. But clapping, slapping, stomping, and banging rocks together would have added nicely to the cacophony.
($)To intimidate competitors visually. The synchronized movements, body paint, and bizarre gestures (including facial expressions) would confuse and intimidate even the fiercest competitors.

- Has there ever been a finer review of the (collective) late eighties MTV rap videos?

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Jordania also suggests that humans evolved a specific state of consciousness — the battle trance — to go along with the Audio-Visual Intimidation Display. This state has several characteristics:
Analgesia and aphobia — no pain and no fear.
Neglect of individual survival instincts.
Loss of individual identity and acquisition of a collective identity.
Central to the battle trance is the notion of collective or group identity:

Clearly he's a keen observer of heavy metal specimens in their native environment too! Guy gets around.... Cool
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