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Marty Broussard


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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 5:02 am    
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If they didn't could a PP be converted?

(This should be interesting 😐😐😐😏😏)
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Doug Palmer


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Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 6:10 am     S-12
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Marty, I have never seen a 12 string Emmons LeGrande. I believe a push-pull body would be too short to mount a LeGrande changer. I guess anything is possible though!
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 7:31 am    
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Marty,
I think a conversion would be possible.
I worked on an Emmons S-10 p/p that had been converted to an all pull at on time and then changed back again to a p/p.
It wasn't very pretty under the hood. Whoa!
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Henry Brooks

 

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Los Gatos, California, USA
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 7:42 am    
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Larry Bell has a Emmons 12 string set up with the universal tuning.
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 7:52 am    
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Larry's is a p/p.

This has been asked before and I'm pretty sure the consensus was that there was never a 12-string LeGrande.
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Bob Hoffnar


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Austin, Tx
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 8:17 am    
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There are no 12st LeGrandes as far as I know. I tried to get them to build one for years.

I had a U12 PP that was an amazing guitar. Any 12 st PP could be converted by somebody that knows what they are doing. Bobby Bowman did mine.
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Marty Broussard


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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 9:11 am    
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Bob were the PPs only available on a double body or could you get a 1/2 pad style?
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Bo Borland


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Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 9:36 am    
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I saw an Emmons PP S12 but i cant remember who owned it. The guy has a Zum, newer MSA, Sho Bud, and the Emmons , all 12 stringers..all single body .. and it was in Phila.

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Lee Baucum


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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 9:39 am    
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Marty - My S-12 P/P was on a "single wide" body. The neck was centered on the top deck, with no room for a pad. I have seen pictures of S-12's on wider bodies with a pad.

Here is the tuning on the guitar I had ---> Click Here

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Ken Metcalf


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San Antonio Texas USA
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 9:54 am    
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My PP Universal
Stays in tune very well.





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Tom Gorr

 

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Three Hills, Alberta
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 10:41 am    
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If you are planning on experimenting with copedent changes for a while. ... my suggestion is to make an Emmons S12 PP your second guitar.

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Marty Broussard


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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 11:01 am    
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Ken that's a good looking one.
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Jim Pitman

 

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Post  Posted 14 Oct 2015 11:17 am    
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Keep in mind a raise dominates in a push pull.
If you are like me you'll miss the all pull behavior whereby a half step lower combined with a full step raise on the same string provides a net half step raise.
I owned a PP S12 Emmons and wound up selling it for that reason and a few other negatives that prevented me from getting my complete universal tuning on it.
If you are looking for a guitar like an all pull but has the tuning stability with temperature that a push pull has - Kline. It's sort of all pull but with change stops at the end plate not at the pedal rod bell crank like in a common all pull.
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