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Topic: doubling up |
BobG
From:
Holmdel, NJ
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 1:06 pm |
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I was wondering how many out there are playing multiple instruments during a particular song when playing live. A good example of this would be taking the mandolin intro on "Remember When" then switching over to the steel for solo then maybe back to the mandolin for some fill work.
If so what is the best way to set up your rig.. use an AB switch? if so where should the AB switch be placed if i'm using a Profex and Nashville 1000.
Thanks,
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Bob Grado, Williams D10 (lefty), Peavey 1000,
Profex ll.
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 2:36 pm
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I do exactly that, but use two amps.
Ususally I play Tele OR Steel for an entire song.
On "5 O'Clock Somewhere" I start and end with Tele, but switch to Steel for the middle break.
On "Remember When" I plug an electric mando into my guitar amp for the intro, then switch to Steel for the rest.
I like having two amps. Not only does it sound better, but it has saved my skin when the old tube guitar amp broke down.
Here's a photo of the setup. |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 2:41 pm
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I sometimes play little parts on the HandSonic with my left hand, when a verse or chorus doesn't need a steel part.
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Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (C6add9),
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 3:54 pm
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| I play pedal steel, Dobro and tenor sax. The Dobro goes into the PA. I've played it through my steel amp when I've had to, but it doesn't work well. The sound isn't as good as the PA, and the amp is usually right behind me where it easily picks up feedback from the Dobro. I'm working on playing sax without taking my picks off. That's the main thing that henders me playing both instruments on the same song. Starting a song on Dobro and switching to steel works well. |
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Ron Sodos
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 4:46 pm
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I play steel and guitar. I use a korg rackmount tuner with 2 inputs. Very simple I use a 10 band graphic eq for the guitar. So the output is on one cord going through the circuit. I just switch between inputs on the tuner and it works perfectly......  |
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Craig A Davidson
From:
Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2004 3:16 am
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I play guitar and steel and carry an amp for both. I could never get used to compromising tone for convenience.
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1985 Emmons push-pull,S-10 Marlin,Evans SE200,Hilton pedal
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 19 Feb 2004 4:27 am
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Last monday night I was playing upright bass on All Of Me, but took my solo on mandolin acoustically.
I did get a look on that one LOL.
I do mando only on Green Dolphin Street and Coltrain's Lazybird.
Bebop mandolin tunes : the new dance craze!
But also play steel without picks and electric bass on Berisovie, Bei Beir Bist du Schon and a few others.
When I drop the bass the 3rd guitarist plays a bassy line.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 19 February 2004 at 04:47 AM.] |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 19 Feb 2004 12:28 pm
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I play a bit of fiddle as well as Steel and use an AB box going into my Rack -- just a matter of quickly dialing up my fiddle setting on the Profex II -- easy as !! I usually have both the steel and fiddle settings programmed next to each other so it's one push of the cursor and a flick of the switch on the AB box - very handy if your playing both on the same song !
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 19 Feb 2004 12:36 pm
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I do both steel and lead guitar gigs but always use the mandolin on both. When I'm on a guitar gig I have an A/B switch but when I'm on steel I just unplug the cord from my steel and shove it into the mandolin. Have a good 'un...JH
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Livin' in the Past and the Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.
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David Spires
From:
Millersport, OH
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Posted 19 Feb 2004 1:02 pm
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Come on guys - make 'em use you on steel the whole song - every song!!! :-)
I am joking. It is great to be that versatile. I play other instruments as well, but I sure do like staying on steel live, and not bouncing back and forth. (actually the way I get around it is I don't let many people know that I play other instruments!).
I'm in one band project where we don't have an instrumentation problem. There are 8 of us...
Just a fun comment, a little off-topic,
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Marc Friedland
From:
Fort Collins, CO
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Posted 20 Feb 2004 2:15 pm
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The primary band I perform with is The Dave Russell Band, a five-piece country show band, where I enjoy my role and challenge as utility man. I go back and forth between pedal steel, keyboards and 6-string guitar, in addition to some vocals. I only sing when playing the keys or 6-string and not when on psg. All of the material is well-rehearsed, and the set lists predetermined, so I’m well prepared for all of my parts, and the instrument changes that are required. Here are a couple of typical examples:
1st song of set 1 is Honky Tonk Attitude right into #2 song, Daddy Won’t Sell the Farm.
On Honky Tonk Attitude, I start on piano, and then switch to psg for the steel solo. Right after that, I take off the picks, stand up and play the piano solo, and I’ll stay on piano the rest of the song, and then be ready for organ sounds on the next song.
Song three is an original that is a rockin swing tune, for which I sit at the psg with picks on, and go back and forth from psg to piano.
Set 2 starts with How Do You Like Me Now into Gone Country.
I play the entire 1st song standing and playing organ, and then have approx. 10 seconds to get my picks on, be situated on the psg, and be ready to play Gone Country after the guitar kicks it off. I play that song entirely on psg except for playing the 3rd verse fills, which I play with my left hand on piano, while still sitting at the steel with picks on, ready to switch back immediately. Some songs I go back and forth between keyboards and 6-string, but I never go back and forth between psg and 6-string in the same song.
My basic rig for most situations consists of the following:
Nashville 112 amp
Roland 4-channel keyboard amp
Carter 10 w/ 3 & 5
2 keyboards, one for piano sounds, the other for organ and misc. sounds.
1 or 2 six-strings, one electric, one acoustic electric - these both go into the keyboard amp, with the sound being aided by a guitar processor unit.
We always mic or go direct with everything, except for the smallest of clubs, which is quite rare for this particular group.
That’s pretty much how I handle the “doubling” situation.
-- Marc
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Jeff Hogsten
From:
Flatwoods Ky USA
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Posted 29 Feb 2004 9:06 pm
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| well I play steel lead keyboard and harmonica and tenor sax. I have my steel in front of me and hold my guitar on my lap with a strap which Im sure a lot of players have done. Ive had a stand made that goes around my steel and holds my kurzweil keyboard right above the steel. I have a mic on a boom stand coming over the keyboard for harmonica. I do have to stand to play the sax. I have a fender princeton reverb a 69 and a old nashville 400 to my left. I play with a keyboard player that plays rhythm piano midi with a bass on her left hand and a drumer and I do all the fill work. It gets a bit much sometime but I love it Jeff |
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