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William Hoff
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 2:28 am
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Is there any difference between a Stringmaster with a two six string neck option and a Fender Dual 6 Steel? |
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Jeff Mead
From: London, England
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 3:06 am
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If it's got 6 strings per neck it's not a Stringmaster.
All Stringmasters had at least 2 necks and 8 strings per neck.
I believe the guitar that looked like stringmaster double but with only 6 per neck, was called a Dual 6.
There is an earlier model with trapezoid pickups (similar to the Dual Professional which had 8 strings) but not sure what that was called.
Fender's naming convention for their steel guitars was a bit wacky.
It would be great if someone could produce a page with all the variations showing their correct name as listed in the catalog. |
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Steve Green
From: Gulfport, MS, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 5:47 am
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From MLA's collection. He probably has info on the Dual Pro series, too.
_________________ Some songs I've written |
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Robert Murphy
From: West Virginia
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 10:40 am
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My Dual 6.
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Ron Landis
From: Arkansas, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 11:09 am
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Nice guitar. I just bought one identical to it and love the tone it has through my Fender tube amp. I thought it was a Stringmaster too. I stand corrected. |
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Terry VunCannon
From: Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 12:22 pm
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Note the first line in this Fender book, it does list the D6 as a Stringmaster...it makes me feel good to call my D6 a Stringmaster...
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Terry VunCannon
From: Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 12:24 pm
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I think the Duel 6 was a special order option from what I remember...don't give up so quick Ron!!! |
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Ron Landis
From: Arkansas, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 12:58 pm
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Ok. I thought it had more to do with the pickup arrangement than the number of strings. That makes more sense... not that it has to. But like you, Terry, I guess I just like being able to call it a Stringmaster. btw, check out the case I built for mine. I just posted a new thread on it. |
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Joerg Hennig
From: Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 1:08 pm
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Here is a copy of a 1960 Fender catalog and the dual 6-string version is listed under Stringmasters.
Last edited by Joerg Hennig on 24 Mar 2013 1:11 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Jeff Mead
From: London, England
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 1:09 pm
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Terry VunCannon wrote: |
Note the first line in this Fender book, it does list the D6 as a Stringmaster...it makes me feel good to call my D6 a Stringmaster...
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The way I read it is that the Dual 6 is a six string version of the Stringmaster - but is still called a Dual 6
In exactly the same way that another Fender brochure might say that the Esquire is a one pickup version of the Telecaster - but it is still an Esquire.
However, the 1960 catalog does seem to include it as a Stringmaster so either they used the wrong picture, or Fender were as confused about model names as the rest of us.
Still interested in what the six string version of the Dual Professional is called - anyone with a catalog from that era? |
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Joerg Hennig
From: Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 1:21 pm
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In the 1957-58 catalog instead, it has its own entry as a Dual 6 Professional.
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William Hoff
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 3:12 pm
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The reason I asked the original question, I remember seeing an old Fender Price List, and as I recall it listed a Stringmaster with optional 6 string necks. I need to do some digging and find that old price list. I'll post a scan of it. |
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Stephen Baker
From: Lancashire, UK
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 3:14 pm
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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
Meaning
What matters is what something is, not what it is called.
Origin
From Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, 1600: |
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William Hoff
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2013 5:00 am
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Stephen Baker wrote: |
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
Meaning
What matters is what something is, not what it is called.
Origin
From Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, 1600: |
I agree, but I'm going with the "If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck" |
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Terry VunCannon
From: Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2013 7:30 am
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So true William, the Fender Book that calls the Duel Six "The six string version of the Fender Stringmaster" makes it a Stringmaster...LOL. With the same body, same pups & wiring, and the "secret weapon" pup blend wheel...it is a Stringmaster. Barring a Fender lawsuit...I'll continue to call mine a Stringmaster...it makes me happy... |
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Jack Aldrich
From: Washington, USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2013 8:13 am
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I have a short scale single neck Deluxe 8 that I use when I won't need the B11 neck on my D8 Stringmaster. the Deluxe is, for all practical puposes, a Stringmaster. - Jack _________________ Jack Aldrich
Carter & ShoBud D10's
D8 & T8 Stringmaster
Rickenbacher B6
3 Resonator guitars
Asher Alan Akaka Special SN 6
Canopus D8 |
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Miles Lang
From: Venturaloha
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Posted 3 Oct 2015 8:11 am
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Robert Murphy wrote: |
My Dual 6.
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That looks like my perfect steel right there. |
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 3 Oct 2015 3:01 pm
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Okay, you Fender afficionados. I'm building a Stringmaster D10 entirely out of Fender parts from an old 2000 which was not restorable.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=289744&highlight=
I took the Stringmaster design and modified the dimensions to fit the parts from the 2000. The ten-string tuner pans required the body to be about half an inch wider, and the 2000 fingerboard dictated a slightly longer scale, which I prefer anyway, so the body is about an inch longer. Otherwise, the body is based entirely around Stringmaster dimensions, which I took from a spare Stringmaster body that I have.
What shall I call it? A Stringmaster D10?
Hey, that will confuse future historians who get their hands on it in a hundred years time. |
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Rick Collins
From: Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 3 Oct 2015 5:44 pm
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Alan, I beg your pardon (I never promised you a rose garden).
But:
It looks as if the inside bank is higher than the outside bank __ optical illusion?
A Fender should have the outside bank elevated approx. 3/8" (playing clearance).
Tell me you will finish it blonde. That is the best color for a Fender. |
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 4 Oct 2015 9:33 am
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Rick Collins wrote: |
...It looks as if the inside bank is higher than the outside bank ...A Fender should have the outside bank elevated approx. 3/8" (playing clearance).
Tell me you will finish it blonde. That is the best color for a Fender. |
I have another thin sandwich layer to go onto the outside bank, but I haven't reached that stage yet.
I haven't decided on the colour. The Stringmaster that I restored for Basil Henriques was finished in almond colour, I seem to remember, and I used the remainder of the paint to refinish my Guyatone D8, after it fell from on top of my Sho-Bud onto a concrete floor during an earthquake. (...but that's another story ). I was quite pleased with the results. |
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Keith Glendinning
From: United Kingdom
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Posted 4 Oct 2015 10:03 am
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Alan,
I personally don't care what colour you finish this project, it's a winner in my books.
I heard Basil play his restored Fender last August at the North East Steel Guitar Festival here in Thornton Watlass near Bedale in Yorkshire UK. It looked, and sounded amazing and I'm sure your "special" will be just as good, with the added bonus of being "one of a kind". Keep us posted on the progress and put a sound clip up when it's done.
I know from experience how budgetary constraints can affect your projects once you're retired, but you seem to have lot's of parts to choose from, lucky you.
Best of luck with this one.
Keith. |
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 4 Oct 2015 2:35 pm
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Thanks Keith. Basil is the sort of person who can make any instrument sound great, and I'm sure he could produce a soundclip from this instrument when it's finished that would be better than anything I could play, but I'll do my best.
This is where I've got to so far. This afternoon I cut out the apertures for the pick-ups and tuners, and cut out two pieces of aero-ply for the far neck, to bring it up to the right height.
As you mentioned, I have a lot of spare parts, so I have enough possible projects to keep me busy for several years yet, and that's ignoring my other hobbies and actually playing the instruments. |
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