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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2015 6:28 am    
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This applies to artists, writers, designers, coders, and pedal and lap steel guitarists and wannabe steelers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1oZhEIrer4
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Ken Pippus


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2015 9:15 am    
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Pretty profound, and with wide application.

Somethin' fer nuthin' usually ain't worth nuthin.'
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Don R Brown


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2015 2:15 pm    
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That's worth watching! The cycle of progress and plateau can be frustrating.

I tell people "They say it takes two years on pedal steel to suck. It took me THREE years, but I'm finally there!" But I stay with it because despite it all, it's still FUN.
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Niels Andrews


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2015 5:23 pm    
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Awesome! Thanks Andy. And by the way your new book is great!
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 10 Aug 2015 2:10 am    
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Thanks, Niels!
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2015 9:28 am    
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That was really good, Andy. It applies to all the other arts as well, like writing.
There were probably times you kind of had to slug through a section at times, tho I could be wrong.

It reminds me of the days that I don't get to it in one form or another is a day gone by that I can't make up.
I found the video inspirational.

And... I was looking for something through old posts and encountered your possible record album favorite, same as mine: Getz/Gilberto.
I think I'd like to approach steel the way Joao Gilberto does piano. It's the height of taste, to me, and the Portugese language....
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2015 11:16 am    
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Yeah, Charlie. For me that record transcends instruments and reaches me on every level. A drummer friend of mine refers to the roots rock groove he loves as "ear cocaine". I kinda understand that when I think about the impact Getz/Gilberto had on me at about age 20.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2015 12:01 pm    
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I remember the effect at about 18; it was immediate, the space within the recording.
Perhaps the 'cleanest' recording I'd heard to date, and the effect remains the same.
It's enough to make me keep my phonograph; one wants to hear the audible silence, not the digitized absence.

And the drumming... and bass.... The actual bossa nova, reduced to its original components, way below expectation, is a wonderful thing,
and remains my very favorite groove (altho there are so many).
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David Mason


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Post  Posted 14 Aug 2015 11:55 pm    
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"Whatever technique you have on your instrument at any give time is always good enough to say something. If you can't find the the thing to say that's what you've got to work on."

- David Torn

I kinda like that quote, but applied with caution - keeping in mind that Torn's greatest claim to fame is probably from making soundtracks for really weird movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEKO4aNCYcs
(Only fair to mention I lust for his toys)
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 15 Aug 2015 12:44 am    
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Wow, didn't even know about the guy.

Red Educativa Sanjuanina (San Juan, Argentina) wrote:

David Torn (a.k.a. "splattercell")... has scored films including Friday Night Lights, Lars & The Real Girl, The Wackness, Everything Must Go, The Order, Saint John of Las Vegas, The Line, Teenage Paparazzo, and many others. His ensemble work has graced the musical output of artists including David Bowie, Tim Berne, Jeff Beck, Tori Amos, Madonna, Jan Garbarek, Laurie Anderson, Chocolate Genius, John Legend and kd lang. David studied with guitarists John Abercrombie and Pat Martino, and as a youth, with Leonard Bernstein. Among his awards are two Grammys, and three Readers' Poll Awards from Guitar Player magazines. This presentation is the premiere for a piece for solo guitar, oud and live-sampling/modifications; it's entitled, "only sky."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMy1pv3-tw4
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 15 Aug 2015 1:44 am    
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Torn is way under the radar but very respected in the pro musical community. He also plays lap steel. Thanks to Brad Bechtel's page ....

David Torn's lap steel tuning from September 1996 Guitar Player magazine:
D
C#
B
F#
B
E
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