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Len Amaral

 

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Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post  Posted 24 Jul 2015 3:05 pm    
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Is there an internal adjustment in the Hilton VP? Thought I would ask as I can find the paperwork and don't want to take it apart and start fiddling around.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 24 Jul 2015 5:50 pm    
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No impedance adjustment, just volume and tone pots (accessible from the bottom).
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Dave Grafe


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Hudson River Valley NY
Post  Posted 25 Jul 2015 11:12 am    
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The impedance is very high, nothing that should require adjustment...
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Len Amaral

 

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Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post  Posted 25 Jul 2015 3:30 pm    
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I would like to trim a little high end off the pedal.

Thanks,

Lenny
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 25 Jul 2015 4:36 pm    
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Try the tone adjustment.
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Carl Kilmer


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East Central, Illinois
Post  Posted 25 Jul 2015 6:46 pm    
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If it's a late model pedal it don't have tone or volume, only off point pot.
Like anything else. made cheaper, but the price still stays the same. Sad
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 25 Jul 2015 7:24 pm    
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Your right. Mine only has the off point pot. He'll have to tame his highs some other way. Lower the treble side of the pickup. Back off the treble on the amp. Use an EQ.
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Craig Baker


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Post  Posted 25 Jul 2015 7:25 pm    
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Lenny,
You have some pretty good amps if I remember. Don't any of them have a treble control?

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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2015 2:21 am    
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The volume pedal is designed to pass whatever input to the output (no tone change). If you have too much highs its not the pedal's fault.

In regards to removing the Tone and Volume pots, Keith posted that very few users use these adjustments and to keep the price the same with rising costs he eliminated them. He can add them to a pedal, obviously at extra cost.
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Len Amaral

 

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Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2015 4:21 am    
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The Hilton has a high end ping with some amps and adjusting the treble control on the amp does not make it go away. I'll try tweaking the pedal a bit.

Thanks,

Lenny
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2015 4:52 am    
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I've used my Hilton (I have two an old attached power supply model and a newer model) with various amps, both tube and solid state and do not notice what you are hearing.
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Drew Pierce

 

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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2015 12:21 pm    
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Agree with Jack. I have both types and they are very transparent. Much more so than any pot pedal as tone does not change as volume is increased. And, unlike pot pedals, which depend on a mechanical device, the sound quality of the Hilton pedal does not deteriorate with time and wear.

Keith also told me customers would regularly "over-adjust" those little volume and tone control pots with big screwdrivers and destroy them, then complain about the malfunctioning VP.
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David Mason


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Cambridge, MD, USA
Post  Posted 27 Jul 2015 3:28 am    
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Cords function as capacitors, a lot of "Strat players" carry a high-impedance cord for recording if the Strat is just too snappy for the situation (Hendrix's use of a low-rent coily cord to compensate for Strat-> fuzztone -> wahwah pedal a case in point). Capacitors are additive in parallel but multiplicative in series, so it takes a bit of thought to decide where to cut highs. I use PA speakers for that, as do most people here. I like the way a bright signal works running round the corners, and then squash it at the finish line.

That multiplicative bit is why so many players "hate" tone controls, because if you DO use a high-capacitance, resistive cable, then turning a tone control is like stepping on a garden hose in two places. I don't mean to run on, but it's enormously cheaper to know why things work and build a chain for the tone you want, than to just keep changing things and buying things year after year, wondering where they hid the mojo this time. Sad
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Georg Sørtun


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Mandal, Agder, Norway
Post  Posted 27 Jul 2015 5:11 am    
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David Mason wrote:
[...] it's enormously cheaper to know why things work and build a chain for the tone you want, than to just keep changing things and buying things year after year, wondering where they hid the mojo this time. Sad

Couldn't agree more. Very Happy
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Len Amaral

 

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Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post  Posted 27 Jul 2015 5:47 am    
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I am using all George L hookup chords so I am going to different cords to see if the is a difference.....good suggestions.

Lenny
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Keith Hilton

 

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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
Post  Posted 27 Jul 2015 6:35 am    
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Some good ideas have been pointed out in this discussion. Here are some of my observations, after building pedals for over 18 years, with over 20,000 out in use world wide. Also from playing professionally for over 48 years. When I had tone controls on pedals back in 2008 and before:----I never saw a famous steel player who "ever" used the tone control. They always left it off. The tone controls on a Peavey amp are great, but most people get confused using them. Tone changes dramatically, depending on where an amplifier is placed, and the direction of the speaker. Tone changes depending on the size of the room, and what is in the room. Tone changes with humidity and air pressure. Tone can appear to change with the volume level of a band. Many players in their 50's 60's and 70's experience medical hearing problems. These are only a few of the variables. Even the most experienced players get frustrated with their tone at times, I know I do.
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