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Topic: Lloyd Green's Copedent |
Gary Arnold
From:
Panhandle of Florida, USA
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Posted 4 May 2019 6:14 pm |
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I was just watching Mr. Green at the 95" ISGC and I wondered if any one new what his true setup is, I just wanted to know because I didn't see a lot of knee movement under that SD-10...…. Thanks, Gary  |
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Harry Dove
From:
Michigan, USA
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Posted 4 May 2019 6:54 pm
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# note LKL Ped1 Ped2 Ped3 LKR RKL RKR
1 F# __+G________________________________________
2 D# ________________________________-D/C#_______
3 G# _____________+A_____________________________
4 E ___________________+F#____+F________________
5 B _______+C#_________+C#______________________
6 G# _____________+A_____________________________
7 F# ____________________________________________
8 E __________________________+F___________-D#__
9 D ____________________________________________
10 B _______+C#__________________________________ |
Very simple and I don't think he has changed anything for close to 50 years. He uses a lot more bar slants that the average guy. What usually gets the most discussion is that he doesn't lower fourth string E. |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 4 May 2019 8:57 pm
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Tom Bradshaw wrote of him: “Today, one cannot listen to a Country radio station for 20 minutes and not hear Lloyd playing on some record.”
Lloyd Green’s tuning, as published in Winnie Winston’s 1975 book Pedal Steel Guitar, is interesting for what it leaves out of the “standard” Nashville tuning:
# note LKL Ped1 Ped2 Ped3 LKR RKL RKR
1 F# __+G________________________________________
2 D# ________________________________-D/C#_______
3 G# _____________+A_____________________________
4 E ___________________+F#____+F________________
5 B _______+C#_________+C#______________________
6 G# _____________+A_____________________________
7 F# ____________________________________________
8 E __________________________+F___________-D#__
9 D ____________________________________________
10 B _______+C#__________________________________
The most unusual feature here is the lack of a lower for the 4th string. It would be expected on Right Knee Right – the standard change is to lower both E’s to get a B6th chord. This doesn’t keep Lloyd from getting that “Old Hank” sound when the song requires it, though. I can only assume that he uses his second string a lot more than most of us do in that kind of music.
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Kevin Fix
From:
Michigan, USA
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Posted 5 May 2019 3:57 pm
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| I love watching the bar slants he does. |
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Paul King
From:
Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 6 May 2019 2:27 am
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| At the Texas Show in 2018 Lloyd stated the F lever was the last pull he added on his steel. If I remember correctly it was used on a Tammy Wynette song "DIVORCE" in the 1960's. BTW, Lloyd played and sounded great both nights. |
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Kenny Davis
From:
Great State of Oklahoma
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Posted 6 May 2019 6:08 pm
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| I always thought it was unusual to raise the E's going the opposite direction when you are raising 5 & 10 usually with the outside of your foot! |
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Gary Arnold
From:
Panhandle of Florida, USA
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Posted 6 May 2019 9:42 pm
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Thanks Guys for your posts  |
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David Mitchell
From:
Tyler, Texas
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Posted 7 May 2019 2:16 pm
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| I have copied some of Lloyd's work by listening and rock along fine then all of a sudden.. Dang! I swear he has a trick knee lever no one knows about. |
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Brett Lanier
From:
Hermitage, TN
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Posted 9 May 2019 9:17 am
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I suspect that a big part of Lloyd's copedent is the confidence and touch he has in his 2nd string feel stop (D note), not to mention the creativity... There are almost endless combinations of notes in the most simple of copedents.
I don't lower string 4 either. I pulled it off as an experiment, because I noticed that it pretty much always sounded better to use string 2 instead of 4 lowered - so I removed the change to force myself to grab that note on the second string. After my hands got used to that I also liked some other things that came with it, the tuning stability of the C pedal change for one. |
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