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Topic: Old Fender Echo Chamber need photo. Solid state Ecco-Fonics |
Ken Fox
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Nashville GA USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2008 6:15 pm |
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I am restoring one and have the circuit board done (new caps and a few transistors). I need a picture of the tape loop and heads. I am sure I am missing something there!
I have a bad erase/record head. The erase coil show open. Trying to find a head now (old Nortronics part).
I have a schematic and am ordering an owner's manual from Fender tomorrow.
The echo is an early 60's model from what I can tell.
Any help or advice appreciated!!
Last edited by Ken Fox on 29 Dec 2008 5:39 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Papa Joe Pollick
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Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 28 Dec 2008 9:30 pm
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| I bought one in the early 60s and when it developed a problem I contacted Fender and they said they didn't make it and couldn't help me..It was made by another outfit in LA.I tried to contact the maker and they were out of buisness..No one seemed to know anything about it.Ended up trashing it..But it sure was nice when it was working.....PJ... |
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Ken Fox
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Nashville GA USA
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Posted 29 Dec 2008 5:41 am
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The were made by Ecco-Fonics. Mine looks like a cover is missing. Not sure if they used a short tape loop or a tape cartridge of some sort.
I just send fender $5.00 for the manual, a copy from their archives. |
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Larry Robinson
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Peachtree City, Georgia, USA
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Posted 29 Dec 2008 8:59 am
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| I had one of those back when they first came out. They used an "endless" tape cartridge. It really sounded great when it was working. |
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Papa Joe Pollick
From:
Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 29 Dec 2008 9:09 am
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| As I recall,it was a cartridge..PJ... |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 29 Dec 2008 9:54 am
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| I had a hunch it was a cartridge. Hope someone has a picture. Maybe the manual will shed some light. Will have to retro-fit something in there for sure |
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Michael Brebes
From:
Northridge CA
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Posted 29 Dec 2008 2:56 pm
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A good picture but unfortunately not a whole lot of help for the tape path:
http://www.brettallenstudiorental.com/Effects/Fndr64Echo_50.jpg
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Instrument/amp/ pickup repair
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 29 Dec 2008 3:16 pm
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Much appreciated. Now I can see the cover and how it was attached. I could not see the cover as a separate piece in the only picture I could find on the net.
Unfortunately I did not get the cover! |
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Papa Joe Pollick
From:
Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 29 Dec 2008 7:06 pm
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Ken,you probably allready know about this guy.Anyway if you don't he might be able to help..PJ...
http://www.orbitelectronix.com/ |
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Bobby Rountree
From:
San Angelo, Texas, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 30 Dec 2008 8:56 am Echo Mach
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Hi Ken...Maybe this will help...I had one of these in the early 60's.....I was in radio at the time and used these machines....The heads were identical as I remember.
http://www.jimprice.com/prosound/carts.htm
Bobby |
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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 30 Dec 2008 7:58 pm Hi
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Hal Kennedy of the dixie Echoes used one for years he live in Fl. may still have it.Cape Canaveral fl.
Ken I went back and reread I think Hal had an Eco Plex, or something like that.
ernie |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 31 Dec 2008 7:57 am
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I order the manual from fender (archived for many years now!!). I hope it will reveal a bit more info.
My erase head read open so I am am still in pursuit of a record/erase head (all in one, Ortronics) |
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Michael Brebes
From:
Northridge CA
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Posted 31 Dec 2008 8:35 am
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You might want to contact JRF Magnetics for a replacement head. They are in New Jersey.
http://www.jrfmagnetics.com/
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Michael Brebes
Instrument/amp/ pickup repair
MSA D10 Classic/Rickenbacher B6/
Dickerson MOTS/Dobro D32 Hawaiian/
Goldtone Paul Beard Reso
Mesa Boogie Studio Pre/Hafler 3000
RP1/MPX100 |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 31 Dec 2008 9:49 am
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Thanks, I have John French looking for a head in his inventory now!
With a little luck..... |
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Robert Burton
From:
Des Moines,Iowa,
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Posted 9 Jun 2010 9:43 am Fender Echo
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| I had two of those back in the 60's one had a cassett and the other an endless loop. Sounded great when it worked. But I spent more time untangling tape and splicing tape than using it good luck on your project. |
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
From:
Sweden
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Posted 9 Jun 2010 11:18 pm
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I sold the remainder of my Tape-Echo inventory a
couple of years back,and I still remember the hours
of maintenance required to keep them rolling...still
though...when I spot something like this I get that
old time Tape Echo feeling again...better not look...
McUtsi |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2015 2:28 pm
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Still have the old echo. Never finished it. Got the board all rebuilt and a new record head. Never could find a tape cartridge for it.
Any hope some of you may have one? |
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2015 3:03 pm
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Might you be able to re-engineer an 8-track cartridge? All you need is an endless 1/4 inch tape loop, right?
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Ron Whitworth
From:
Yuma,Ariz.USA Yeah they say it's a DRY heat !!
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Posted 30 Jul 2015 3:59 pm
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Hi Ken;
Here are some photos - I hope this helps you out-
Good luck on your project.
I know it is long but the link does work.
Click on the picture you want & it should enlarge it.
Ron
Link to Google search.
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We need to turn the TWANG up a little
It's not what you play through, it's what you play through it.
They say that tone is all in the fingers...I say it is all in your head 
Some of the best pieces of life are the little pieces all added up..Ron
the value of friendship. Old friends shine like diamonds, you can always call them and - most important - you can't buy them. |
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Craig Baker
From:
Eatonton, Georgia, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 30 Jul 2015 4:41 pm
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Ken,
I have several broadcast carts around here. If you can get the tape to ride over the pinch roller it might just work. Let me know.
Craig Baker 706-485-8792
cmbakerelectronics@gmail.com
C.M. Baker Electronics
P.O. Box 3965
Eatonton, GA 31024
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2015 4:42 pm
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For those who might have one of these here are some photos. Found that same site earlier today with photos. Very helpful
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 31 Jul 2015 1:38 pm
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Some old photos I had from 2010! Glad I kept these:
My echo when I first got it!
Before and after cap replacements on main board:
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