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Ray Montee


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Post  Posted 28 Jun 2015 3:57 pm    
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During my enthusiastic days as a wanna-be photographer........I never could figure out why the majority of photographs in the quality photography magazines. They more often than not were accompanied by lengthy descriptions about lenses and other stuff.........info' I didn't understand.

I think this would be a worthwhile suggestion for we steel players to give some tho't to.

For example: RED RIVER VALLEY, Emmons Dbl 10, thro'
a Fender silver face twin reverb amp, 12 or 15 inch, with Bigsby Vol-Tone foot pedal, etc. etc.

It's really too mystifying to try and guess what the player was using in order to get that fabulous tone.

What do you think?
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Joe Elk


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jun 2015 4:20 pm    
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Good Idea Ray! Often I find myself asking: I wonder what tuning is he or she is playing? The other things you mentioned would be helpful as well. I think it would minimize inquires on the forum by readers of a post with a minimum effort on the part of the sender.
Joe
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Dom Franco


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Post  Posted 30 Jun 2015 3:04 am    
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Mark Roeder


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Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 30 Jun 2015 9:36 am    
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Yes, the more info the better

BTW what amp did you use with your Bigsby?
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 30 Jun 2015 9:21 pm     Bigsby Amp.........
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At the time I was playing my Bigsby Quad regularly,
I was using a FENDER Bassman with four ten inch
speakers.
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Mark Roeder


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Post  Posted 1 Jul 2015 6:51 am    
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I like the sound of those 4 speaker Fenders......
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Jack Aldrich

 

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Post  Posted 1 Jul 2015 9:25 am    
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When I was playing bass in rock bands in the early 70's, my favorite lead guitarist, Dave Elson, played an Ibanez Artist through 4 10" speaker Fender Bassman. The Ibanez was a Gibson ES 335 copy, btw. His sound was fantastic! The Bassman case was in turquoise blue, padded Naugahyde!
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 16 Jul 2015 5:07 pm    
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Great idea for the tuning mention.

Equipment setup is nice as well but as far as amp sounds technology is such that the sound you are hearing is not usually just the amp. It's more often the effects pedals or mixers or compressors and EQ's etc.

By the time you see a performance or a recording it's original signal is so altered that even if you had the same amp you could not achieve the same tone as your heroes.

Now if we all decide to go back to basics and simplify our setups then the amp sounds etc would make a difference but all too often I use to wonder why people didn't realise that tech has moved on so much that specific amps are not necessary. Eg. I have a boss me 25 that can mimic all of Boss' popular amp sounds that made the pop hits from Nirvana to Hendrix and Srv clones to red hot chilli peppers and even jazz greats like Wes. Amp modelling technology happened a long time ago and I can bet you that no one would know the difference if I used an amp model vs a traditional amp on a recording or even live. I have seen this as an audio engineer over the years.

Huge well known bands use amp modelling pedals or outboard rack units and peavey cabinets etc. and forums would still be filled with posts about what amp was that? Expecting to achieve the same tone.
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Keith Barron

 

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Post  Posted 16 Jul 2015 9:10 pm    
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I too like hearing the details on all the gear used. I am nuts about music gear. It's fun and interesting. I can't seem to ever get bored of it or run out of new things to learn or try. From guitars, pickups, amps, pedals, mics, strings and so much more. I try so many different combinations, it's fun. Hearing about what others are doing is great.
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 17 Jul 2015 2:39 pm    
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It would look something like this...

"Recorded 8:32 p,m. on Thursday, June 10, 2015 at the Fred Plunket Recording Studios in Netherwallop, CA., zip code 97506. Temperature 85°F, Air Pressure 29 mm of mercury, Humidity 88%. Cloudy sky with drizzle. Using Chromium Dioxide 1" tape running at 15"/sec. on a Levers-Rich 16-track tape recorder with a Tascam 16-channel mixer, Reslo ribbon microphones. Played on a Sho-Bud Crossover, serial # 45087, by Oswald Badtuner, aged 35 yrs. 8 months, 4 days, height 5'11", weight 198 lbs., married twice, divorced once, with two kids, Jim and Alice, ages 8 and 12, both of whom attend Flidderling High School in Los Angeles, CA, using a 1" chromium plated tone bar and an Emmons pedal, fed through a 5' shielded gold-plated cable and a Revox D89 echo unit, serial # 12786754, into a Fender model 98 amplifier, serial # 34560, wearing Bootsy Cowboy Boots, size 11, in leather, and Stetson size 6 hat in grey, a white shirt from Macy's, and a pair of 30" Levis, under which were white jockey shorts from Fruit of the Loom. Oswald was taking medication for gout, diabetes and a gash on his bottom. He has a scar on his right hand, brown hair, and protruding ears. The piece is "Mooning Manacura", written by Gerome Wonkbottom on 30th May, 1934 in Omaha, Nebraska, copyright #309876 by Special Music Inc. of Goonsbucket, TX, in the key of D. Using the rear neck, tuned to C6, but no pedals or knee levers...."
Shocked
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 17 Jul 2015 4:41 pm     Ah haa............
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That's a little more technical that I had envisioned but it should work.
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Keith Barron

 

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British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 17 Jul 2015 7:16 pm    
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I was kind of thinking more along these lines, listing gear used:

1954 Fender Pro Deluxe 8, stock with original
Trapezoid direct string pickups.
Tuning: C6 neck 1, E9 neck 2
1964 Fender Bandmaster amp. Stock with
Matching 2x12 cab with original 1964 dated
Jensen C12N speakers
1965 6G15 Tube reverb tank
AKG C214 Condenser mic

Gear, not personal life details or weather. Wink
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Jeff Au Hoy


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Post  Posted 18 Jul 2015 4:31 am    
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Alan, I'm crying.
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