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Topic: volume difference between E9 and C6 |
ken collins
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Oklahoma City, OK.
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Posted 5 Apr 2015 12:58 pm |
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| I have a D-10 with George L 10-1 pu's. The ohms are literally equal and the height adjustment the same, yet the C6 is much stronger in vol. Has anyone ever had this or seen a pu with the proper ohmage that has a weak output? Thanks, Ken |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 5 Apr 2015 1:33 pm
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Are they MEASURED the same, or just labeled the same?
Also, remember that the C6th uses thicker strings, so there's more interactions between magnet and string.
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Apr 2015 1:46 pm
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| Are you playing both necks at the same time? If not, this shouldn't be an issue. There are differences between the strings and the changers, so that might account for some small differences. (Even a changer or neck that's been over-tightened can affect the tone and volume on that neck.) |
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ken collins
From:
Oklahoma City, OK.
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Posted 5 Apr 2015 7:15 pm Vol difference
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| Thanks for the replies. Donny, surely your gesture about playing both necks at once was just a joke. I'm not talking about a small difference but a significant vol. change. I'm certain it's not string or a too tight of a changer and the ohmage is almost exactly the same like I described. I'll change the pu out and thanks for the suggestions.Ken |
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Brett Lanier
From:
Madison, TN
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Posted 5 Apr 2015 7:29 pm
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| Maybe your switch has gone bad? You could test it by flipping the wires around. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 Apr 2015 6:48 am
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Ken, I think Donny's point was that if you don't do like I do and switch necks between phrases, the step in volume isn't really an issue, even if it IS really happening.
I recall that I observed the same effect back when my Zum had two E-66s on it, but I didn't worry about it.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 6 Apr 2015 9:18 am
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| maybe we want to know if, when the neck selector is switched to both necks 'on' position, is the difference as drastically different as you say. |
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ken collins
From:
Oklahoma City, OK.
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Posted 6 Apr 2015 11:57 am Vol Difference
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| Chris. Good Point. This is a Thomas I didn't purchase new. This selector switch is totally off in middle position, which makes me think the answer is probably in the switch/or pu connections. Maybe Donny meant to say alternating between necks which I do a lot instead of playing both at the same time. I never put switch in the middle, rather I flip it to whichever neck I'm playing. We play a lot of swing and I like to play on both during the songs. One could set the vol. ped. for the E9 and a merely back off some for the C6, but I'm not that slick and have never ran into such a vol. difference before. I do appreciate the time involved and input of all responders |
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Jim Bates
From:
Alvin, Texas, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2015 3:18 pm
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I agree with Lane that the strings are 'heavier' and have more mass to affect the magnetic field (makes it louder).
Try moving the p/u down a little bit until it sounds better to you. It only takes a small movement to make a noticeable change (the magnetic field falls off inversely as the square of the distance.)
I am another Okie (from Clinton,OK) who grew up listening to and playing steel in western swing bands in western OK and Texas Panhandle during the mid 50's and early 60's. Still go back to Weatherford,OK, for a jam once a year with a few 'old guys' who still try to keep the real 'western swing' alive (at least in our memories).
Thanx,
Jim |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2015 6:14 pm
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Ken, I think it is something to do with the switch. Look very carefully to see if single strand of wire might be shorting across the switch or run a jumper across the switch to reconnect the E9th pickup to see if the volume comes up.
Jerry
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 Apr 2015 7:12 pm
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It is normal for the switch to have both necks hot in the middle position (which also plays with the impedance, making each neck sound underwound. This effect leads me to leave both necks hot most of the time). I think something is going on in the switch.
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