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Topic: Out West Would Like to Know |
Wayne Brown
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Bassano, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 28 Sep 2003 6:33 am |
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we at out west pac-seats would like to know what you folks would like to see on your seats in the future ajustable legs,neon lights rack units...etc and why...this was sparked by another thread i just replied too... and it got me thinking...all the info gathered here i will pass on to ken and dan at stealers choice and i'm sure that Mr walker will be watching this thread also...so go ahead tell me what you would like to see and what you like now ...the pro's and cons lets say... and we will discuss it and i'll try to answer all your replies one by one from a builders point of view
thanks
wayne brown
c/o out west pac-seats[This message was edited by Wayne Brown on 28 September 2003 at 07:36 AM.] |
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Chippy Wood
From:
Elgin, Scotland
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Posted 28 Sep 2003 8:10 am
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Spring adjustable legs very similar to those used on medical appliances.Spacing holes approx 1" apart, the rubber feet may prove a slight problem when folding the legs up though.
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Ron (Chippy) Wood
Carter S10/Pad
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2003 10:03 am
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| A fold-out or pull-out shelf? I have three stompbox-sized effects: a little mixer, an equalizer and a distortion unit and right now I carry a little table around to put them on. |
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Jim Smith
From:
Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2003 10:09 am
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| I saw a picture of a modified seat on eBay a while back. He had inserted threaded plugs into the legs to which he screwed in carriage bolts with lock nuts in order to raise the seat. A slightly more sophisticated approach could probably be done to provide adjustable legs at not much additional cost. |
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Ron Randall
From:
Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2003 10:43 am
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ATA latches, hinges, etc. Or and ATA case to put the seat in. Seat height that can be set and then left in place. Metal parts that don't bite back. Back rest that is removable. Kinda like the headrests on a car. They move up and down, or can be pulled out. Or like a removable backrest for the passenger on a motorcycle.
Lid(s) that stay open with those little gas shocks. Much safer. Any thing to prevent injury to the hands and fingers...cause that is where the tone is.
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Larry Beck
From:
Pierre, SD
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Posted 28 Sep 2003 4:04 pm
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Wayne. I Really like my Out West Pac Seat. It is exceptionally well constructed. That said, 2 things would make it better.
- 1. Make it deep enought to hold a pedal with over the bar clamp attached and wall wart for light pedals
- 2.make the legs so they fold up with some sort of spring release in seconds.
At the end of the gig, a quick pack up is anyways a good thing and sometimes good for your health.  |
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Wayne Brown
From:
Bassano, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 28 Sep 2003 5:16 pm
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ok here we go...
chippy in order to do the engineering on somthing like that which we have checked into it would drive the price way up..when you think of the per unit cost..but it is a great idea
david we would be happy to build a seat for you that would have a pull out shelf for your pedals...and it would not cost a arm and a leg...but as a whole .... the market for that is very limited
jim i saw that too and as a matter of fact i was checking into something like that...with a threaded insert and a lock nut kind of deal...what do you people think ...would this be a good enough ajustable leg for you folks...once you set it to your liking it could be locked in for you personally...this has very good possibilities
ron i'm sending you a pic of a new seat we will be introducing in oct. or nov. called the traveller...it is a flight case within itself....as for ata flight cases for your seat we at out west do build them...but we have never had a call for one from anybody...
hi larry nice to here from you again....accually we did take your advice and the very next seat off the line the interior was changed to accomodate this ...and now it can handle the largest volume pedals on the market today...as for the leg spring release ...with the weight variances of our customers we chose not to do that for stability and legal reasons
i hope that i've answered all your questions adequately
thanks and keep them coming
wayne brown
c/o out west pac-seats
[This message was edited by Wayne Brown on 28 September 2003 at 06:17 PM.] [This message was edited by Wayne Brown on 28 September 2003 at 06:19 PM.] |
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Jeff A. Smith
From:
Angola,Ind. U.S.A.
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Posted 28 Sep 2003 5:45 pm
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As far as the adjustable legs:
It would be a problem for me to order an expensive seat sight-unseen without them. Not having had a pack-a-seat before, I would be guessing as far as just one height to order. I'd imagine the cushions are different from make to make, too.
That being said, I would personally be happy with adjustment that was cheap and fairly minimal; the kind that wouldn't be used very often, more just to dial the original height in.
I'd like to have a nice seat someday, but the height thing is important when you're talking about spending a few hundred dollars. |
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Wayne Brown
From:
Bassano, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 3:43 am
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jeff this problem keeps coming up about seat height, which i'm working on as we speak...the industry standard is 20 1/2" high. i have built seats taller and shorter depending on what the customer wanted...there was only one time in four years that i had to make a new set of legs for a customer because the seat was to short...also all it took was a simple exchange...we at out west and the other builders rely on you the customer to figure out at what potition and height you feel most comfortable playing your steel...i allways suggest to the customer, that he sit at his steel and and if he needs height add some books or something...then get a friend to measure from the floor to his back end then we know the measurement for sure.also a good place to find out the height that you want ....are these steel shows that are all over the country...there's plenty of seats and steels at these shows and i'm sure that the seat builder would be happy to take a seat over to a steel so you could sit behind it and get the feel for it...i hope this helps in answering your question...
thanks
wayne brown
c/o out west pac-seats[This message was edited by Wayne Brown on 29 September 2003 at 04:46 AM.] [This message was edited by Wayne Brown on 29 September 2003 at 04:47 AM.] |
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Jeff A. Smith
From:
Angola,Ind. U.S.A.
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 5:45 pm
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Thanks for the response Wayne. I just had a thought:
Do the legs attach and come off pretty easily? I was just thinking that an option I would appreciate would be to first receive a seat with the standard legs; if they weren't a comfortable height, they could be returned (in like new condition of course) by the customer with a request to make a set to an exact non-standard height.
I think if I had the actual seat I could figure pretty easily how close the standard legs were to what I needed.
And, since a returned set of (like new) legs would be the standard size, I'd think a builder could just put them on another seat.
As a customer, I'd even be willing to pay the freight on both the returned legs and the custom ones, provided I could pay the same price on the seat that I would have paid had I ordered special legs to start with.
Would this be a big hassle? |
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Wayne Brown
From:
Bassano, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 7:12 pm
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hi jeff this is exactly what i do in the case of that the seat is the wrong height..except i pay the shipping...the legs are held on with 1/4" bolts on our seats and all you need to remove and replace the legs is a 7/16" wrench...i hope this helps jeff...thanks...
wayne brown
c/o out west pac-seats[This message was edited by Wayne Brown on 29 September 2003 at 08:13 PM.] |
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