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Topic: B's to Bb on LKV with E Lower on LKR |
Michael Hutchison
From:
Indianapolis, USA
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Gerald Shaw
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Florida, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2015 12:54 pm |
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| Michael, my guitar has the same setup. Those moves are not too difficult. Having the A and B pedals depressed makes the vertical a little easier to use. Using the vertical by itself is a bit tougher. Pedaling onto both the A and engaging the vertical, and getting the half lower note seamlessly is hard for me. Verticals are not my favorite lever, but they can five you a lot of options (as the example you linked shows) |
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Brint Hannay
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2015 1:20 pm
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| It might depend on which way your vertical is oriented, where it's placed in relation to the LKR and/or how long it is. It takes more effort to hold the vertical pressed up if your knee is close to the pivot point of the lever. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 12 Mar 2015 1:54 pm
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It is easy once you get used to it. It is also easy to release one and engage the other.
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 12 Mar 2015 2:36 pm
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| Gerald Shaw wrote: |
| Having the A and B pedals depressed makes the vertical a little easier to use. Using the vertical by itself is a bit tougher. |
I agree, but I have the 1st and 7th string raises (F# to G) there. IMHO, the B to Bb change belongs on a regular knee lever.
The change works well in conjunction with both the E string raises and lowers. Clearly this is only possible when the E raises and lowers are on the same knee, and the B-Bb change is on the other.
The O.P.is assuming that the E-raises and lowers are on different knees. This allows a smoother transition between the 2, but at a cost of not having the B string lower available everywhere it can be used.
This is one of the reasons I have the E string raises and lowers on the same knee.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 12 Mar 2015 3:11 pm
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Mike, combining E raises and B lowers hasn't occurred to me. Lying here in the bunk, I'm not seeing how they work together (but I rarely use use my F lever). Care to elaborate on how?
I have the A# lever on the same knee as my E string levers, and it really isn't difficult to drop the Bs with or without the E lowers (and is dead easy to release one and engage the other, do it all the time).
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Brint Hannay
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2015 3:16 pm
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Mike, it seems to me the O.P. is assuming the E lowers are on the left knee (LKR), which would mean the E raises and lowers on the same knee, as I don't think I've ever heard of a copedent with the E lowers on the left knee and raises on the right knee.
I stand by my earlier comment: in my experience, it matters if the vertical is direct-pull (rotating clockwise) or reversing (rotating counter-clockwise)--a couple of my guitars have come one way, a couple the other--and the placement of the levers relative to each other. If, to get a combination, you have to cram your knee up into the angle formed by the axle end of a vertical and the axle end of a side lever, it can't be described as easy--you have minimum leverage on both levers. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 12 Mar 2015 4:33 pm
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Lane, the combination of the 5th string lowered to Bb and the 4th raised to F forms a perfect 5th between the 2 strings. It has all sorts of possibilities.
Here’s a example. Activate both levers, then slide the bar down 2 frets, while releasing the B-Bb lower and pressing the A pedal. The 5the string will raiss in pitch while the 4the lowers.
Another: go to the C# position, (A pedal and F raise) and kick in the B-Bb lever. You get the same minor chord that you get 1 fret back with the B and C pedals. Sometimes it’s better to make it this way, as you don’t have to take your foot off the A pedal.
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Michael Hutchison
From:
Indianapolis, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2015 6:05 pm
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I have both E's on the left.
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