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Topic: That Spanish sound! |
Andy Volk
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Doug Beaumier
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Will Houston
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Tempe, Az
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Posted 12 Feb 2015 4:08 pm |
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| Slave Girl is pretty cool, sorta has a surf sound to it. |
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Rob Anderlik
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Posted 16 Feb 2015 12:26 pm
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Thanks for posting this Andy. A few years back I was messing around playing my dobro in G tuning and came up with this tune after watching Esteban selling cheap guitars on late night TV. I play this tune every now and then and some musicians have told me that it's built around the Phrygian mode while others have told me it's built around a harmonic minor scale. Truth be told, I don't have a clue, it just evolved from messing around at home and then working up the tune with a friend of mine. Can anyone set me straight on this?
https://soundcloud.com/rob-anderlik/rama-p-jama |
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Andy Volk
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Posted 16 Feb 2015 12:49 pm
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You're welcome. Both would work but here, I'm hearing harmonic minor out of a G root - but I didn't grab a guitar to check.
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 16 Feb 2015 12:55 pm
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| Very surfy. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Germany
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Posted 16 Feb 2015 1:08 pm Santo & Johnny: Slave Girl
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Seems like they influenced Jeff Beck.
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Rob Anderlik
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Posted 16 Feb 2015 2:58 pm
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| Thanks Andy. Guess I need to study up on my Phrygian modes! |
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Doug Beaumier
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Posted 16 Feb 2015 7:12 pm
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Here's a handy shortcut for playing a Phrygian solo... Play a major scale 2 whole steps below the key the song is in. That major scale has the same notes as the Phrygian mode of the song's key. The sound will be Spanish-exotic-mideastern- and very cool for certain songs.
Examples: the three videos in the original post.
* The Santo & Johnny song is in the key of A. The two chords are A and A#. If you want to play an A Phrygian solo and you can't remember how to play it, just play the F major scale (2 whole steps below A)... which has the same notes as A Phrygian.
* The second tune is in the key of D. The two chords are D and D#. To play a D Phrygian solo, just play the A# major scale (two whole steps below D)... which has the same notes as D Phrygian.
* Reece is playing in the key of C. The two chords are C and C#. To play a C Phrygian solo, play the G# major scale (two whole steps below C)... which has the same notes as C Phrygian.
OR you could memorize the Phrygian patterns starting on the root, as most jazz players would do. I never did that because I very rarely, if ever, need to play this mode in the songs I play.
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Sebastian Müller
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 1:47 am
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| Rob Anderlik wrote: |
Thanks for posting this Andy. A few years back I was messing around playing my dobro in G tuning and came up with this tune after watching Esteban selling cheap guitars on late night TV. I play this tune every now and then and some musicians have told me that it's built around the Phrygian mode while others have told me it's built around a harmonic minor scale. Truth be told, I don't have a clue, it just evolved from messing around at home and then working up the tune with a friend of mine. Can anyone set me straight on this?
https://soundcloud.com/rob-anderlik/rama-p-jama |
Nice tune Rob, did you play all instruments ?
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Andy Volk
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 3:24 am
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Very cool tip, Doug! I've never thought about it that way. Much easier to remember. When I play those sounds on C6th, I usually just use this pattern out of the major chord position of whatever key I'm in. I'd have to go look up to se if it's exactly the Phrygian mode or not.
Here's another great example from Django - though he starts in Spain and takes it a bit afield: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Fx2NZmVpw
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 5:27 am
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That is beautiful.
I'm trying to think of the steel player I read recently who was much influenced by Reinhardt. |
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Rob Anderlik
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Chicago, IL
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 5:55 am
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| Thanks Sebastian. This was recorded at a jam session. I played dobro only, a couple of friends played guitar and mandolin. I've always been a little puzzled about the scale. I can play it, just didn't know what it was |
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Brian McGaughey
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Orcas Island, WA USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 6:40 pm
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| This has been a fun thread! Thanks Andy and all... |
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