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Bob Snelgrove


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 1:31 pm    
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Remember all the banjo jokes, Remember laughing at just the name? Who's laughing now? (Not Dave Ristrim Smile

Banjo has replaced the pedal steel on virtually every modern country song!

So how many of you have added the Banjo to your repertoire?

If you are also a guitar player does it help? is it as difficult to learn as pedal steel or not that bad? I'm not talking tradition Scruggs style but more what we hear on the radio today. Thanks for any input and LMK if you have a decent banjo for sale Smile

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Bill Moran

 

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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 2:15 pm    
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I change the radio station when banjo starts playing ! Laughing Embarassed
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Pete Burak

 

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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 2:25 pm    
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I love all the jokes and also love to play the instrument.
I like to call it my "JamBo!".

fwiw, As a guitar player I immediatly noted that 3 of the 5 strings are exactly the same as guitar.
D-G-B
Way easier to learn than Steel.

I'm pretty sure the ones in modern country are exactly the same as guitar.
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Antolina


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 3:01 pm    
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Bill Moran wrote:
I change the radio station when banjo starts playing ! Laughing Embarassed


Yup Me too Laughing
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Clyde Mattocks

 

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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 3:13 pm    
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And yet again:
Q. How can you tell which steel players also play banjo?
A. We're the ones who are WORKING!
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Bob Snelgrove


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 3:25 pm    
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Clyde Mattocks wrote:
And yet again:
Q. How can you tell which steel players also play banjo?
A. We're the ones who are WORKING!


Amen!

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Bob Snelgrove


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 3:26 pm    
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RC Antolina wrote:
Bill Moran wrote:
I change the radio station when banjo starts playing ! Laughing Embarassed


Yup Me too Laughing


Are you naysayers in working bands or hobbyists?

Each to there own, of course!

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Dick Wood


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 4:03 pm    
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Hi,my name is Dick Wood and like some of you here tonight, I too have had thoughts of playing a ba baaa baa Banjo.

Who amoung us doesn't get a big smile on our face when we hear the intro to Ray Steven's Misty on the radio? I like it as much as Jaydee's playing.
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Bob Snelgrove


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 4:29 pm    
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It gets down to whether you listen to modern country music or not, I think. I get the whole resistance to the murder on music row. I LOVE classic country and would love to play nothing but that but around here that ain't happening.

I don't play music for a living so I'm not forced to play the new stuff. I choose to because that's what offers me a chance to get out and play. We're playing the Saddle Rack this Saturday night, BTW Wink

It's all good, folks Smile


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Don R Brown


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 4:56 pm    
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Isn't that like putting egg in your beer? Laughing
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Bob Snelgrove


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 5:30 pm    
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Don R Brown wrote:
Isn't that like putting egg in your beer? Laughing


I don't know what that means but I do like my Beer

Rolling Eyes
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Roger Rettig


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 5:43 pm    
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I bought a reasonably nice banjo about ten years ago (an Alvarez Denver Belle) fully intending to study the Scruggs style of playing. Unfortunately I couldn't stand being in the same room while I was practicing!!

However, it's proved a wise purchase. I've done many theatre shows playing it with the 5th string removed - Irving Berlin's 'I Love a Piano', 'Chicago', 'Mame', 'The Boyfriend', 'Showboat' and many more - all for longish runs, too, so it's earned me many thousands of dollars.

I do like well played banjo. My favourite player was Bobby Thompson - he had so many nice tasty moves in his arsenal. Touring alongside Bela Fleck was an eye-opener too. And, yes - 'Misty' wouldn't be half as good without that intro!
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Roger Shackelton

 

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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 6:21 pm     Buck Trent's Lick of the Week 1 -
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Published on Sep 28, 2012

This is the 1st in a series of videos made by Buck Trent to showcase his amazing sound on his "One-of-A-Kind Electric Banjo". Buck Trent, along with Bruce Hoffman, shows his world famous lick used on "I'm Gonna Feed You Now". Shot in Branson, Missouri where the Buck Trent Country Music Show has been pleasing fans for over 20 years now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvwKxLZG7do
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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 7:16 pm     BANJOLINE DEMONSTRATION by Eddie Peabody
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Published on Aug 18, 2012

Eddie Peabody invented the "Electric Banjoline" in the 1950's, and it was later manufactured by the Rickenbacker Company in the 1960's.
This video includes Rickenbacker's promotional audio recording with Eddie playing & explaining features of the Banjoline. The songs include: "Moonlight On The Ganges", "Somewhere My Love", "Bye Bye Blues", "I'll See You In My Dreams" and "Casey Jones".


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Brett Day


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 9:16 pm    
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Tim Sergent plays steel, dobro, and banjo with Dierks and he does a great job
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Bob Snelgrove


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2014 10:21 pm    
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Brett Day wrote:
Tim Sergent plays steel, dobro, and banjo with Dierks and he does a great job


And our own famous Dave Ristrim out with Luke!

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Bill C. Buntin

 

Post  Posted 27 Nov 2014 4:43 am    
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I was listening last night to the late great Doug Dillard and thinking about this very thing. Banjer don't really sound so good with classic country, but get on one of those multi eclectic shows, surely wouldn't hurt to be able to turn into Earl Scruggs if they needed it.
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Lyle Dent


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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2014 5:35 am    
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Just like pedal steel, if it's great it's great or if bad it's exponentially bad. Country is the new rock and bluegrass is the new country. So, learn the 5, fiddle, dobro along with steel and go on the road. Good luck. Oh by the way can you learn sax, we would like to do a couple of Ace Cannon songs.
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Jack Aldrich

 

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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:09 am    
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Like a lot of you, I came to the steel from the banjo. I started playing banjo in 1959 and didn't get around to steel until 1975.
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:22 am    
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I took up steel in 1963 and banjo in 1964, so I've always played both. To my mind they're both a vital part of country music and I think that the good-humoured bantering about banjos on this forum is mostly with tongue in cheek, just in fun. Winking Wink Winking Wink

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Andrew Roblin

 

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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:31 am    
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Banjo and steel both have unmistakable, beautiful voices.

And the instruments are similar too, because they're both highly idiomatic and exist outside the world of formal music education.

Any musician could learn a lot and enjoy a lot by studying the playing of, among others, Earl Scruggs and Lloyd Green. But only a few--lucky us!--do.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:31 am    
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We have dobro simulators. I wish they would come out with a banjo sim. There are many songs that have bajo in it that I would like to cover the parts. I have no interest in buying and learning the banjo.
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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:57 am    
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I really do like banjos. They are beautiful instruments. I just can't stand the way they sound. Sorry, guys.
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Bob Snelgrove


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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2014 12:04 pm    
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Richard Sinkler wrote:
We have dobro simulators. I wish they would come out with a banjo sim. There are many songs that have bajo in it that I would like to cover the parts. I have no interest in buying and learning the banjo.


I was thinking the same thing, Rich! Would save us a lot of time and money Smile


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Bill Sinclair


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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2014 1:36 pm    
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Richard Sinkler wrote:
We have dobro simulators. I wish they would come out with a banjo sim. There are many songs that have bajo in it that I would like to cover the parts. I have no interest in buying and learning the banjo.

Try using an EL84 output tube for a slide. It has just enough weight to make the note sound but not enough for any amount of sustain. Combine that with a rolling pic technique and it's fairly convincing. A 6V6 is too heavy. If you don't have an EL84, a 12ax7 will give you an idea of the sound but will only cover 3 strings. You might want to use a spent tube as I don't know what the string vibration does to the tube internals. I don't have pedal steel to try it on but it works great on my 6-string lap. Let me know what you think.
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