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Topic: Adding Banjo To Your Pedal Steel Playing? |
Bob Snelgrove
From: san jose, ca
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 1:31 pm
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Remember all the banjo jokes, Remember laughing at just the name? Who's laughing now? (Not Dave Ristrim
Banjo has replaced the pedal steel on virtually every modern country song!
So how many of you have added the Banjo to your repertoire?
If you are also a guitar player does it help? is it as difficult to learn as pedal steel or not that bad? I'm not talking tradition Scruggs style but more what we hear on the radio today. Thanks for any input and LMK if you have a decent banjo for sale
bob |
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Bill Moran
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 2:15 pm
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I change the radio station when banjo starts playing ! _________________ Bill |
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Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 2:25 pm
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I love all the jokes and also love to play the instrument.
I like to call it my "JamBo!".
fwiw, As a guitar player I immediatly noted that 3 of the 5 strings are exactly the same as guitar.
D-G-B
Way easier to learn than Steel.
I'm pretty sure the ones in modern country are exactly the same as guitar.
Check out the Dean Backwoods-6 (30 day Return Policy at GC). |
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Antolina
From: Dunkirk NY
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 3:01 pm
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Bill Moran wrote: |
I change the radio station when banjo starts playing ! |
Yup Me too _________________ The only thing better than doing what you love is having someone that loves you enough to let you do it.
Sho~Bud 6139 3+3
Marrs 3+4
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Clyde Mattocks
From: Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 3:13 pm
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And yet again:
Q. How can you tell which steel players also play banjo?
A. We're the ones who are WORKING! _________________ LeGrande II, Nash. 112, Fender Twin Tone Master, Session 400, Harlow Dobro, R.Q.Jones Dobro |
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Bob Snelgrove
From: san jose, ca
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Bob Snelgrove
From: san jose, ca
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 3:26 pm
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RC Antolina wrote: |
Bill Moran wrote: |
I change the radio station when banjo starts playing ! |
Yup Me too |
Are you naysayers in working bands or hobbyists?
Each to there own, of course!
bob |
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Dick Wood
From: Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 4:03 pm
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Hi,my name is Dick Wood and like some of you here tonight, I too have had thoughts of playing a ba baaa baa Banjo.
Who amoung us doesn't get a big smile on our face when we hear the intro to Ray Steven's Misty on the radio? I like it as much as Jaydee's playing. _________________ Cops aren't paid much so I steel at night. |
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Bob Snelgrove
From: san jose, ca
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 4:29 pm
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It gets down to whether you listen to modern country music or not, I think. I get the whole resistance to the murder on music row. I LOVE classic country and would love to play nothing but that but around here that ain't happening.
I don't play music for a living so I'm not forced to play the new stuff. I choose to because that's what offers me a chance to get out and play. We're playing the Saddle Rack this Saturday night, BTW
It's all good, folks
bob |
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Don R Brown
From: Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 4:56 pm
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Isn't that like putting egg in your beer? |
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Bob Snelgrove
From: san jose, ca
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 5:43 pm
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I bought a reasonably nice banjo about ten years ago (an Alvarez Denver Belle) fully intending to study the Scruggs style of playing. Unfortunately I couldn't stand being in the same room while I was practicing!!
However, it's proved a wise purchase. I've done many theatre shows playing it with the 5th string removed - Irving Berlin's 'I Love a Piano', 'Chicago', 'Mame', 'The Boyfriend', 'Showboat' and many more - all for longish runs, too, so it's earned me many thousands of dollars.
I do like well played banjo. My favourite player was Bobby Thompson - he had so many nice tasty moves in his arsenal. Touring alongside Bela Fleck was an eye-opener too. And, yes - 'Misty' wouldn't be half as good without that intro! _________________ Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles and Martins - and, at last, a Gibson Super 400!
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Roger Shackelton
From: MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 6:21 pm Buck Trent's Lick of the Week 1 -
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Published on Sep 28, 2012
This is the 1st in a series of videos made by Buck Trent to showcase his amazing sound on his "One-of-A-Kind Electric Banjo". Buck Trent, along with Bruce Hoffman, shows his world famous lick used on "I'm Gonna Feed You Now". Shot in Branson, Missouri where the Buck Trent Country Music Show has been pleasing fans for over 20 years now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvwKxLZG7do |
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Roger Shackelton
From: MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 7:16 pm BANJOLINE DEMONSTRATION by Eddie Peabody
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Published on Aug 18, 2012
Eddie Peabody invented the "Electric Banjoline" in the 1950's, and it was later manufactured by the Rickenbacker Company in the 1960's.
This video includes Rickenbacker's promotional audio recording with Eddie playing & explaining features of the Banjoline. The songs include: "Moonlight On The Ganges", "Somewhere My Love", "Bye Bye Blues", "I'll See You In My Dreams" and "Casey Jones".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWYbYBE6LLw |
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Brett Day
From: Pickens, SC
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Posted 26 Nov 2014 9:16 pm
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Tim Sergent plays steel, dobro, and banjo with Dierks and he does a great job |
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Bob Snelgrove
From: san jose, ca
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Bill C. Buntin
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Posted 27 Nov 2014 4:43 am
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I was listening last night to the late great Doug Dillard and thinking about this very thing. Banjer don't really sound so good with classic country, but get on one of those multi eclectic shows, surely wouldn't hurt to be able to turn into Earl Scruggs if they needed it. |
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Lyle Dent
From: Little Rock ,Arkansas
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Posted 27 Nov 2014 5:35 am
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Just like pedal steel, if it's great it's great or if bad it's exponentially bad. Country is the new rock and bluegrass is the new country. So, learn the 5, fiddle, dobro along with steel and go on the road. Good luck. Oh by the way can you learn sax, we would like to do a couple of Ace Cannon songs. _________________ Rittenberry Prestige SD-12,Mullen G2 SD-12 ,Mullen PRP S-12 BMI S-12 V8 octal, BJS Bars, LiveSteelStrings,Steelers Choice Seat. |
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Jack Aldrich
From: Washington, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:09 am
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Like a lot of you, I came to the steel from the banjo. I started playing banjo in 1959 and didn't get around to steel until 1975. _________________ Jack Aldrich
Carter & ShoBud D10's
D8 & T8 Stringmaster
Rickenbacher B6
3 Resonator guitars
Asher Alan Akaka Special SN 6
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:22 am
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I took up steel in 1963 and banjo in 1964, so I've always played both. To my mind they're both a vital part of country music and I think that the good-humoured bantering about banjos on this forum is mostly with tongue in cheek, just in fun.
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Andrew Roblin
From: Various places
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Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:31 am
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Banjo and steel both have unmistakable, beautiful voices.
And the instruments are similar too, because they're both highly idiomatic and exist outside the world of formal music education.
Any musician could learn a lot and enjoy a lot by studying the playing of, among others, Earl Scruggs and Lloyd Green. But only a few--lucky us!--do. |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:31 am
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We have dobro simulators. I wish they would come out with a banjo sim. There are many songs that have bajo in it that I would like to cover the parts. I have no interest in buying and learning the banjo. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2014 10:57 am
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I really do like banjos. They are beautiful instruments. I just can't stand the way they sound. Sorry, guys. _________________ -𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Bob Snelgrove
From: san jose, ca
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Posted 27 Nov 2014 12:04 pm
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Richard Sinkler wrote: |
We have dobro simulators. I wish they would come out with a banjo sim. There are many songs that have bajo in it that I would like to cover the parts. I have no interest in buying and learning the banjo. |
I was thinking the same thing, Rich! Would save us a lot of time and money
bob |
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Bill Sinclair
From: Waynesboro, PA, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2014 1:36 pm
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Richard Sinkler wrote: |
We have dobro simulators. I wish they would come out with a banjo sim. There are many songs that have bajo in it that I would like to cover the parts. I have no interest in buying and learning the banjo. |
Try using an EL84 output tube for a slide. It has just enough weight to make the note sound but not enough for any amount of sustain. Combine that with a rolling pic technique and it's fairly convincing. A 6V6 is too heavy. If you don't have an EL84, a 12ax7 will give you an idea of the sound but will only cover 3 strings. You might want to use a spent tube as I don't know what the string vibration does to the tube internals. I don't have pedal steel to try it on but it works great on my 6-string lap. Let me know what you think. |
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