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Topic: Russ Pawl with John Oates |
Gary Roda
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 10:20 am |
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Did anyone see that great John Oates special on Paladia last night? Great music delivered by expert players and singers! Of special note was Russ Pahl on steel; beautiful playing, very tasty and perfectly in tune. Anyone know what steel Russ is playing on that show? It looks like some kind of vintage machine, but sounded like a modern E9 tuned steel to me. Shane Theroit was awesome on guitar as well. Check it out!
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 11:17 am
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It has a white Sho-Bud fretboard, but it may be something else underneath. Maybe Russ will enlighten us…
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Eddy Dunlap
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 12:24 pm
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Russ Pahl is one of the finest musicians and steel guitarists out there today. That's his custom, one-piece/no laminate top Show Pro guitar that he's almost solely used the past two years(He still has the push pull and another really cool gold Show Pro too) Russ tunes his steel down to an Eb9th and uses heavier gauge strings to create his sound.
You guys got to hear these new guitars that Jeff Surratt is building with the one piece wood concept. It's only been done on single neck with a single frame guitar so far. But it has everything going for it in the positive. Bigger/deeper tone, even balanced EQ all across the fretboard on each string, tons of sustain, and they're really loud too. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 1:03 pm
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I think this be the one…
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 1:20 pm
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Here's a session with him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1mIqciOdU
Unfortunately you can't see this guitar which is the nazz.
Be nice to know what the knobs do.
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Eddy Dunlap
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 1:29 pm
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| Barry, that's the one! Charlie, he's using that pink guitar on that particular session with his silverface Fender Princeton. |
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 2:09 pm
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(Is this the pink one? Color vision....)
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 2:20 pm
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| Be nice to know what the knobs do. |
Charlie, the knobs don't seem to be labeled, so what they do may be Russ's secret..
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Gary Roda
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Stockton, California USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 3:36 pm
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Wow, that's the beast! What a great sounding steel (in the right hands, of course). I love the retro-vintage look, and only two pedals? I could have sworn I heard Russ do some very B&C-pedal sounding moves on that show... maybe he has that change on a KL.
His tone and intonation are superb.
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Eddy Dunlap
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 5:08 pm
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| Gary, his E to F RKL actually goes a whole step up to the F# and can cover the C pedal change with pedals A and B. |
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Gary Roda
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 5:17 pm
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Eddy,
Thanks for the insight. I have dug Russ's playing since first becoming aware of him back when he did the Vince Gill DVD show at the Ryman. Outstanding player!
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'87 Emmons LeGrande SD10 (4x5), '97 Carter D10 (8x5), Quilter Steelaire, '89 Nashville 400, Cube 80XL, Steeler's Choice Easy Rider, lotsa cool memories |
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W. Van Horn
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Posted 25 Jan 2015 6:33 pm
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| Does anyone have a link to the aforementioned performance? |
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Barry Blackwood
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 26 Jan 2015 3:40 am
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'Yes, someday the world will recognize that the C pedal is superflous and rectify the nomenclature of the A & B pedals into coordinated linguistic and spatial function....' don't shoot me I'm only the piano player
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Wally Moyers
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Posted 26 Jan 2015 7:57 am
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| Very Musical! This is the kind of approach to playing that will keep steel players in business in the future. It crosses the line from only a country instrument to a versatile instrument like guitar… You can't just add distortion and play country licks, its a different mindset… I personally love it. I'll add that we need to thank Jeff Surratt at ShoPro for being willing to build instrument like this… Very innovative on both their parts! |
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Jerry Fessenden
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Posted 26 Jan 2015 8:29 am Russ Pahl
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| Not only does Russ play great stuff , he has a great Show-Pro that can get great new types of sounds . Great work by Jeff . !!! JF |
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Daniel Policarpo
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Posted 2 Feb 2015 9:46 am
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| Nothing much to add, except wow! It sound's great, too. One piece of wood, too? Really exciting concept all around. |
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chris ivey
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Posted 7 Feb 2015 8:38 am
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i dunno man. i heard some rough spots and clunkers in there. which to me would mean they gotta do a whole nuther take since they're playing live.
but russ pulls off the 'yeah man, so i guess we're good then?' thing like a pro.  |
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Jim Park
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Posted 7 Feb 2015 9:10 am
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| Russ was probably direct to the board, and if so, he could just punch the spots as needed. A engineer with good Melodyne skills could probably fix it, I have had good luck fixing tracks with Melodyne, it is amazing!!! |
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chris ivey
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Posted 7 Feb 2015 10:57 am
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i hear you jim. i've had many sessions saved by talented engineers.
i'm just saying russ may not actually be a god either!
i wondered if this track of little wing was to have vocals done later? without them it would have been
a little sparse. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 7 Feb 2015 11:30 am
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None of this matters - Russ knows Guitar Face..
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Jack Hanson
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Posted 7 Feb 2015 2:16 pm
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| Russ knows Guitar Face.. |
Great pic, Barry.
The "Guitar Face" really hasn't changed all that much in the last 30+ years (or has it?):
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Eddy Dunlap
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Nashville, Tn
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Posted 7 Feb 2015 2:37 pm
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| I can assure you that Russ was playing through an amp(Probably a Princeton like he normally uses) and not running a direct line where an engineer is using melodyne. I've heard raw tracks in pro tools from guys who've had him on a session and I can definitely say that his sound is pretty much up and ready from the recorded track(he does all of the delays and effects, etc) I like melodyne and think it's useful for mixing and treating some things in a subtle fashion. But steel guitar is something that just can't be auto tuned with a click of a mouse and expect to sound normal. |
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Wally Moyers
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Posted 8 Feb 2015 6:03 am
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| Chris, I can tell you that if Russ couldn't cut it he wouldn't be getting the session calls… There are too many great players in Nashville for them to have to tune his parts.. Russ is an innovator just like Day and Emmons were in their day… What we saw in the session video was more than likely a staged shoot. Even if it wasn't I'm sure he got a second shot at it with an overdub… What counts is the end product, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOl85NPrFcs , that is something totally new…. |
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 8 Feb 2015 6:26 am
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| i wondered if this track of little wing was to have vocals done later? . |
I got the impression that they were just blocking out Little Wing, trying a new arrangement.
It was hard to tell what the final product would be, vocals maybe, leaving space for that.
I thought it was a pretty cool groove, you could dance to it.
Pahl and Oates!
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