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Topic: What is volume pedal "gutting" |
Andy Volk
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 8:30 am |
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Curly Chalker has been described as a master of this technique. Is it starting with the volume full on and then quickly pulling the pedal back to zero volume for a percussive sound?
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Dale Rottacker
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Pete Finney
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Nashville Tn.
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 8:54 am
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In my understanding that's the general idea, and I agree it doesn't necessarily mean going from full-volume to nothing.
But... definitely hitting the chord hard and then lowering the volume quickly and dramatically by pulling back on volume pedal. I think he sometimes did a very quick swell into the chord as well, as he hit it, and then pulled back on the volume.
I always took it as meant to evoke or imitate a similar dynamic effect used in big band brass or reed sections; I'm guessing that's how Chalker thought of it. He rarely if ever used it on single note lines; it was always on big chords. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 9:22 am
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Yeah -- what Pete and Doug said --
It kinda imitated what an extreme compressor setting would deliver -- a POP on the upside but much less a moment after the pop BUT THE NOTE WOULD NEVER GO AWAY and would often swell back loud. And, yes, only on FAT CHORDS.
I've tried to do that for years -- I hear it in my head and want to pay homage -- but can't get the same feel as Chalker did. He was one of a kind.
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Andy Volk
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Pete Finney
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Nashville Tn.
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 11:04 am
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| To me it's most audible in the above clip in the bridge sections (where the trumpet drops out) and in some of Curly's comping behind the solos. I think I do hear a little bit of a swell into the chords as well as a dropping off. He also seems to often use a particularly strong attack and a rhythmic "push" on these chords, all part of the effect, to my ears. |
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Skip Edwards
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LA,CA
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 2:26 pm
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| It's a cool effect... it's also done on the B3. |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 2:43 pm
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| I got pretty good at it. Just don't overdo it |
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John Booth
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Columbus Ohio, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 2:57 pm
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Listen to this Jones tune at about 1:04
The steel player does it a lot in this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mwFMWS_IXM
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Rudy Hawk
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Carrollton,Ohio,USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 3:20 pm
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Herby Wallace was very good at it too.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 4:46 pm
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Yeah, Herby and Big Jim Murphy did it a lot. It's best described as an explosive swell, or "punch" at the beginning of a chord - a quick, but slight, down and up pedal movement, first developed by famous players of the Hammond organ, like Jimmy Smith.
It's real evident in the Blues Bye clip, at :02, :04, :13, and :15 seconds. Listening closely, it's kinda like an old compressor backing off the volume, except that you can clearly hear that he doesn't use it all the time. That's why a compressor does a poor job of replicating the effect..it overdoes it by doing it all the time, and the artistic emphasis is lost.  |
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Willie Sims
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PADUCAH, KY, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2014 11:23 am
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| I MIGHT BE WRONG,BUT IT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE PALM BLOCKING TO ME. WILLIE SIMS. |
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