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Topic: Floating a PP pickup |
Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 19 Jun 2003 4:01 am |
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What would you expect to hear, or not hear, if you float a pickup on a PP?
I thought about putting small rubber o-rings under the pickup and then under the heads of the screws that hold the pickup down. This would help eliminate the guitar noise.
Larry Behm |
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Michael Brebes
From:
Northridge CA
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Posted 19 Jun 2003 6:07 am
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| It would be my guess that, unless the pickup is highly microphonic (you can tap on it and get noise), the mechanical isolation of the pickup isn't going to do that much. Probably much of the mechanical noise is being transmitted mechanically to the strings and being amplified by the pickup. |
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 19 Jun 2003 9:34 am
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It would probably make it sound more like a Sierra. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Pete B's sound is hard to beat. No doubt about it.
Give Bill Lawrence a jingle. He has a good explanation, worth hearing.
I was just thinking of solidifying the TT that's on the way with brass tubes cut to length rather than the spring mount.
It makes them hell in the studio, but the body tone transmittal "to me" is what makes the "sound".
EJL |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 20 Jun 2003 4:07 am
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I tried just suspending the pickup in my hand not touching anything. It reduced the pedal noise and guitar body tapping about 25%. Was not worth de-stringing the guitar at this point to try the 0-ring trick.
Larry |
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John Lacey
From:
Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 21 Jun 2003 4:02 am
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| Hi Larry. I just reconnected my PU because it was intermittent and installed some collars that I used behind the bellcranks for spacers. Unfortunately, they are conductive and I had to fight a lot with them because they were being attracted to the PU. I would be interested in your observation once you've done it. |
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 21 Jun 2003 10:32 am
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So Larry. I got buttonholed after the gig and didnt' get a chance to swing by. How did they work?
Jerry just shipped mine. Took about what, 3 days?
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2003 11:18 am
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Hey Larry, I betcha Ron Sr. has done been thru this and discarded it for some reason
and I bet it had something to do with to__.
I'd rather not use that word just now.
Jerry |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 21 Jun 2003 11:53 am
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| I've enjoyed observing your tone odyssies over the last few years, Larry, and I too am interested in your results. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Jun 2003 12:58 pm
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| O-rings aren't much of a mechanical isolator. Sponge rubber is better, but by the time you get a thick enough, dense enough piece to hold the pickup, most of it's isoltion qualities are gone too. I suspect either you have a bad pickup, or...you're not picking the strings forcefully enough (too much volume, and not enough string action). |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 21 Jun 2003 2:13 pm
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Jerry you may have a point, Donny you may have a point, Jon I am alway on the lookout for a clear and clean sound, so I am not afraid to try different things.
My 66 sounds great with the 14K's but much cleaner with the TT's. Am working with the height adjustment and EQ to find what I like the best.
My PV 1501DT is getting old so I am looking for a replacement. Since my goal is a bright low end and at the same time eliminating a harsh upper end it is not easy.
Larry Behm |
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Eddie Malray
From:
South Fulton, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2003 5:38 pm
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| Larry: Glad you posted this. I don't have any noise that bothers me but I have wondered what it would do to the to-e---ugh---sound. Looks like there are some good answers.----Eddie |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2003 9:33 pm
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Larry, sounds to me that you and I are after the same sound as I like the bass strings to have a touch of rasp in them. I think the
Jerry Wallace pickups will give you that. It seems to be working for me.
Jerry |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 23 Jun 2003 3:57 am
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Jerry I put the TT to the test this weekend, I may have Jerry W wind them a little heavier, but that aside, it is all about the speaker you use.
If the speakers has too much bass repsonse or too brittle it can throw you for a loop. I am also on the lookout for that speakers.
My 4ohm 1501DT has what I like, but it is getting old and rubs the side of the voice coil a little. A k130 8ohm sounded good but I want a 4 ohm for my Webb.
And the search just continues.
Larry |
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