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Eric West


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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 15 Jun 2003 8:49 pm    
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I've gotten to the point where I'd like to step up to some newer pickups. Possibly just the E9 for now.

I'm wondering ( and I did email Jerry) if there is a better "cover" for them besides the thin Sho Bud one, perhaps more "Emmons" looking with rounded edges.

Are these "beer proof"?

As far as impedance etc, is it just a good thing to just get what he does "stock", and it will be the best config?

I usually boost my lows 3 numbers, and my highs a number with the bright pulled in the Nshvl 4, and the shift at O.

Thanks for any info.

I REALLY liked Pete Burak's but our guitars are different, and I'm just wondering what other SBers use.

EJL
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Larry Bell


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Englewood, Florida
Post  Posted 16 Jun 2003 4:00 pm    
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Eric,
Who you should really be asking is Jerry Wallace. His website http://www.jerrywallacemusic.com is very helpful. His phone number is 505-746-6022 and his EMail address is jerrywallacemusic@hotmail.com . I suggest you give him a call or an EMail.

Jerry's a great guy who will bend over backward (ouch! that hurts!) to ensure that his customer is satisfied.

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Larry Behm


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Mt Angel, Or 97362
Post  Posted 16 Jun 2003 4:17 pm    
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Eric I got a set today (monday) I am going to put them in tonight. Stand by

Larry Behm
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Eric West


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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 16 Jun 2003 5:06 pm    
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As usual, everything happened at once.

I spent most of last evening ( when of course I wasn't studying HARD on my guitar) scouring the board for the posts pertinent.

I decided to order one from Jerry,mainly on what I heard from Pete Buraks rig, and Larry Bell's DVA's, others' hearty endorsements. The topping point was/is the more rugged top plate replacing the thin Bud one which is always a problem with us "trunk loaders"

I talked to Bill Lawrence today for quite a while, and after I had ordered the TT. It was about then that I discovered/remembered that the Danny S wound pickup I had, had shorted out some time after his passing and I'd replaced it with one out of the tapped Professional. I had taped the tap closed and it worked fine. Danny's was about half the "normal" windings, and I don't remember having any problems with it. When I rebuild the Professional model, I'm going to get in touch with Bill L, and at least send him the Danny Wound one to check out. It's a project that's a ways off tho.

Also before finding out, ( really, refreshing my knowledge) that meter-measured DC "impedance in of itself" means relatively little, I meter checked mine. the E9 was 16.5k and the C6 was about 11k 7k when the "both" switch is on. Both have just as strong a signal at half throttle. Can't explain the difference.

Let me know how you like yours Larry Behm, and I'll await mine with all the more anxiety. I'll give you a buzz later.

Thanks all.

PS. Another thought not quite deserving of it's own thread:

Lately I've been painfully going though my 25 year old Bud C "Lesson Tapes", and it's really been a mixed bag. Half the time I want to reach back in time and tell myself to STFU, and learn the lesson he was "trying" to teach me. The other half I spend wondering how I picked it up so easily, and can't seem to play the things I used to with just one year of playing, with a much definition as I did when taking lessons. It's really strange. Sometimes I think that 25 years of "combat playing" in beer joints has taken its' toll. I am being reminded that however distasteful plugging in after a lousy gig where you've been fighting a no-rythym rythym section, or a telleycaster from hell, ( not last Fri-Sat necessarily..)is, a couple hours of working it out can really bring back the "meat" of your playing. Of course you're right at the mercy of the "weakest link" on gig night, and by the third set, you couldn't play the latest PF lick you've learned if you had to, but I think there's a point where it WILL pay off.

Possibly what I consider "my bag", I can play on a rickety bandstand, in the rain, with 20 cents of seperation between me and the nearest lead instrument, with a gun pointed at me, with a mad wife staring at me, knowing the check is going to bounce, and that the band's been fired, etc. etc. I guess that it's just having a few things that you've worked out "in the basement" that you can bring onto your "bullet proof" bag, and finding the time to force ones' self to bring them out "under fire".

Last month I managed to get three PF "licks" tucked away in it. There's a lot more "to it" than just "being able to play to a drum machine, a tape, and the family pet". I think "the adversity" is a key element. If it were the "only element" I'd have "made it" a long time ago.

A person I suppose could get the idea that "creating your own adversity" is a worthwhile pursuit. Take it from me. It's not..

Anyhow, Sorry for the "rambling" but I needed to get that off my tiny mind without starting "another topic".

Possibly others can relate.

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 16 June 2003 at 06:19 PM.]

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Larry Behm


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Mt Angel, Or 97362
Post  Posted 17 Jun 2003 4:06 am    
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If you are looking for clean the TT's are that, great string separation. More later after I crank them up this weekend.

Larry Behm
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Bill Moore


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Manchester, Michigan
Post  Posted 17 Jun 2003 4:20 am    
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Eric, I think you'll like the TrueTone, you will probably have it quicker than you expect, Jerry gives great service.....keep rambling...

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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 17 Jun 2003 6:03 am    
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I have a Truetone sitting next to me for the C6 neck. I am due to change strings when it cools down a bit later.
And I will put on the pick up after I record a track so I can see the difference. I got a slightly higher impeadance to give a drop in over all power for the C6 neck which has much more stones than the E9.
Looking forward to hearing this unit.
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Pete Burak

 

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Portland, OR USA
Post  Posted 17 Jun 2003 8:15 am    
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Yes!
The one I have is a 17.5K 12 string model.
I noticed it really sings when used in conjunction with the Hilton pedal, but sounds real good with my old Goodrich pot pedal too.
I too have noticed that the lows are clean and crisp (i.e. not muddy on strings 12-9) while the highs are not ripping my ears off (i.e. not too tin-ee or sharp on strings 1-4).
This is especcially important for S12U where you are playing a wide tonal range on one neck.
Let 'er Rip!

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Eric West


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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 17 Jun 2003 1:31 pm    
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Got one on the way. I heard Larry's over the phone. I especially like the idea of a thicker laminated top plate, bigger magnets, and of course the price and Jerry's promptness.

Thanks all.

EJL
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 17 Jun 2003 3:22 pm    
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I got the Truetone on with fresh Jagwires.

After recording East Virginia Blues direct from the TubeFex with the 'Buddy" patch, in stereo with the old pickup.
Then I did the change and recorded another version, exact same set up.
I then could listen to both versions switching one or the other,
or one hard left the other hard right.

1.) It sweetly cuts through the mix better at lower volumes with no stridency
2.) it has a much better percussivness to the sound, yet still is smooth. I take that as better responce to string movment.
When I want to, I really hear the picks more..
3.) The bottom 3 strings are MUCH cleaner
just night and day between the two cuts.
4.) no hum that I heard
5.) the 705 on E9 now sounds muted in comparison, even with the change of register in string pitchs.
6.) The mids are much more subtle now
7.)The best comparison I can think of is the C6 now sounds like a great Tele but with greater range, vs. a Les Paul, but the 705 didn't sound very Gibsony to begin with.
8.) the relative levels are much better matched bewtween the two necks now.

I am very, very happy, well worth the time, expense and effort.
Jerry great job! You sent me just what I wanted.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 17 June 2003 at 04:43 PM.]

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Mark van Allen


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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 19 Jun 2003 7:55 am    
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Eric, if you've got your TTs yet you probably realize how robust the bobbins and casing are. I thought mine looked like a perfectly made Emmons original on steroids. Just super well made and solid. And Tone! I think you heard my previous raves... MVA

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