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Topic: Can someone splain' this to me? |
John Booth
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Columbus Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2014 7:07 pm |
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I see a lot of guitars with colors on the ends of the nylon tuners.
I assume this makes finding the right ones easier.
Is there a method to this or is it just each guy's own method?
Thanks
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Jb in Ohio
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GFI S10 Ultra, Telecaster, a Hound Dog, and an Annoyed Wife
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Jason Putnam
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2014 8:34 pm
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I think it's a lot of different things for different guitars. Like Zum stage one, the red ones are not to be turned. On Franklins, I think the black ones are only for tuning compensators. So I guess it's different among brands.
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Bobby D. Jones
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West Virginia, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2014 8:36 pm
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| I have seen several players do this. Especially on steels with a lot of pedals and levers. I bought a GFI S12U that has a color marking the nylon tuning nuts a certain pedal or knee lever raises or lowers. Since it has 24 nylon tuning nuts, With 7 pedals and 4 knee levers I think I will continue using his system. Helps to find tuner nuts you need to adjust easier. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 28 Nov 2014 8:39 pm
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I don't see a readily apparent scheme. Bruce Zumsteg would mark the ones that play an oddball role, like the 9th string pull that tunes the 2nd string D or the raise rod that tunes A# on the 5th string if you have a Franklin pedal.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Dick Wood
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Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2014 8:45 pm
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The red ones remind me of those little candy cigarettes back when I was a kid.
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Rich Peterson
From:
Moorhead, MN
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Posted 29 Nov 2014 4:34 am
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| It could also be used if you have two alternate changes rodded up on one pedal/lever, so you switch by tuning out one change and tuning in the other. |
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John Booth
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Columbus Ohio, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2014 4:58 am
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So they mean different things to different people?
Okay
And Dick, don't smoke the tuners Bro 
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Jb in Ohio
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GFI S10 Ultra, Telecaster, a Hound Dog, and an Annoyed Wife
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 29 Nov 2014 5:00 am
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That photo might represent:
Black = pedals
Red = levers
Green = F# compensator
No, there is no standard. I've marked a few tips with a sharpie---basically just the most critical E9 pulls on my U-12 that I'm most likely to tweak (A,B & F). If I were get more elaborate, I wouldn't remember my system by the next day. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 29 Nov 2014 5:36 am
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I still forget which is which. Instead of labeling or dyeing, I watch which rod moves when I hit a lever. That's the one I tune.
The more complex things get, the more I like the single/single Bud.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 29 Nov 2014 8:13 am
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Since I have a lot of changes on my guitar, I took different colored Sharpie pens and colored every change on a certain pedal or lever the same color. It helps when you have more than one change on a string. Sometimes when pressing a pedal, not only does the tuner move for that change, but the others on the same string might move. Harder to tell which is the nut you should turn.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Dustin Rigsby
From:
Parts Unknown, Ohio
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Posted 29 Nov 2014 10:03 pm
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I always thought that the colored tuners were for the rod that tuned the splits and half stops
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Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)
From:
Greenwell Springs, Louisiana (deceased)
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Posted 30 Nov 2014 6:06 am
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| Dick Wood wrote: |
| The red ones remind me of those little candy cigarettes back when I was a kid. |
I still love to eat those candy cigarettes when I can find them (especially when I'm smoking real ones or electric ones).
Like others have said, it may well be different for each manufacturer. When I was working for Jim Boen, we color coded the ends of the tuning nuts on a few of our guitars (the single neck "economy" model that we called a Student-Pro). On those guitars, we color coded the ends of the nuts (at Boen's request) to make certain pulls or lowers easy to see and identify for quick/easy tuning (or, so, that was the logic in Boen's thoughts in color coding them).
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1986 Mullen D-10 with 8 & 7 (Dual Bill Lawrence 705 pickups each neck)
Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
Peavey ProFex II - Yamaha R-1000 Digital Reverb - Ross Time Machine Digital Delay - BBE Sonic Maximizer 422A
ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks) |
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Stephen Rethmeier
From:
Nashville TN
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Posted 30 Nov 2014 6:45 am
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| Richard Sinkler wrote: |
| Sometimes when pressing a pedal, not only does the tuner move for that change, but the others on the same string might move. Harder to tell which is the nut you should turn. |
I'm pretty new to all this so this thread is helpful. Specifically, I have noticed the same thing Richard mentions. So far, I've picked the right one to tune, but what happens if I turn the wrong one? I think I've done this once but can't tell any ill affects.
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Williams S12 Ext. E9 keyless, Williams S12 Ext. E9 keyed, Telonics TCA 500C, Quilter Steelaire, Magic Fender clone, 1937 Model 59 Rick 6, 1940 Epiphone 7-string Zephyr, Oahu 6, 8+/- regular guitars, Kawai baby grand, two cats... |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 30 Nov 2014 9:16 am
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If you turn the wrong nut by mistake, a different change on that string will be out of tune.
If you're like most of us, and turn the nut while you hold the pedal or knee active, the lack of movement will tell you that you have the wrong one.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 30 Nov 2014 10:50 am
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I play some gigs now that I am right next to a wall and can't really see the colors. I sometimes pick the wrong nut that is going in and out with the one I need to adjust. I have to go by feel. Most of the time I can tell which one I need.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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